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You didn't read your own citation. "But what did Hunter achieve with that best-students model?... As graduates... they weren’t nearly as distinguished as they

by abalone 13y ago

You didn't read your own citation. "But what did Hunter achieve with that best-students model?... As graduates... they weren’t nearly as distinguished as they were expected to be... The researchers spend a great deal of time trying to figure out why Hunter graduates are so disappointing, and end up sounding very much like Wilbur Bender. Being a smart child isn’t a terribly good predictor of success in later life, they conclude. 'Non-intellective' factors—like motivation and social skills—probably matter more... [Harvard] wanted superstars, and Bender and his colleagues recognized that if this is your goal a best-students model isn’t enough."

yummyfajitas 13y ago
I'm confused as to the point you are trying to make. You cited an explicitly anti-semitic policy as a model of what investors should be doing, while implying that anyone who disagreed was somehow trying to keep women disadvantaged. Huh? You then cite a study showing that drive and determination matter in addition to academics. No one disputes this. That's why a woman founder demonstrating a lack of determination (i.e., choosing to divide her focus) was a disappointment to the investor, who was stupidly honest for a moment before deciding to hide his real feelings. Certain specific seemingly non-academic factors also promote life success. That doesn't mean that any random hobby does. An investor isn't an asshole simply because he doesn't think that pregnancy is on the list of non-academic factors that do promote investment success.
abalone 13y ago
> You cited an explicitly anti-semitic policy Did no such thing. You cited it, incorrectly characterizing it as "why colleges ask about extracurriculars and leadership." You misread your source, and are wholesale missing the bigger point that success is often about more than maximizing hours in the office/library. You actually remind me of that right-wing group that Tim Cook just smacked down in the latest Apple shareholder meeting. Poor politically-motivated reasoning masquerading as shareholder interest.

by abalone 13y ago

yummyfajitas 13y ago

I'm confused as to the point you are trying to make. You cited an explicitly anti-semitic policy as a model of what investors should be doing, while implying that anyone who disagreed was somehow trying to keep women disadvantaged. Huh? You then cite a study showing that drive and determination matter in addition to academics. No one disputes this. That's why a woman founder demonstrating a lack of determination (i.e., choosing to divide her focus) was a disappointment to the investor, who was stupidly honest for a moment before deciding to hide his real feelings. Certain specific seemingly non-academic factors also promote life success. That doesn't mean that any random hobby does. An investor isn't an asshole simply because he doesn't think that pregnancy is on the list of non-academic factors that do promote investment success.

abalone 13y ago

> You cited an explicitly anti-semitic policy Did no such thing. You cited it, incorrectly characterizing it as "why colleges ask about extracurriculars and leadership." You misread your source, and are wholesale missing the bigger point that success is often about more than maximizing hours in the office/library. You actually remind me of that right-wing group that Tim Cook just smacked down in the latest Apple shareholder meeting. Poor politically-motivated reasoning masquerading as shareholder interest.