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Yeah, women are raising kids. And, they negotiate lower pay, so are less invested in the industry. And, they find opportunities in other industries more entic
by cube_yellow 13y ago
Yeah, women are raising kids.
And, they negotiate lower pay, so are less invested in the industry.
And, they find opportunities in other industries more enticing than men, so are more likely to jump ship for more pleasant pastures.
And, and, and shit that people in tech shouldn't bust a brain cell over figuring out and seeking rent to validate their feelings.
If you haven't had your warm fuzzies for today, go work a soup kitchen.
If you're the guy creeping women out, then work out and learn social skills.
This is not that complicated and it disappoints me to see it on hn.
- GFK_of_xmaspast 13y agoI wonder what the rate of attrition is for women in other fields. Also w/r/t/ negotiation and pay, check out things like this: http://pwq.sagepub.com/content/early/2012/08/23/0361684312455524.abstract http://pwq.sagepub.com/content/early/2012/08/23/036168431245... """ Policy makers, academics, and media reports suggest that women could shrink the gender pay gap by negotiating more effectively for higher compensation. Yet women entering compensation negotiations face a dilemma: They have to weigh the benefits of negotiating against the social consequences of having negotiated. Research shows that women are penalized socially more than men for negotiating for higher pay"""
- cube_yellow 13y agoWhat are the "social consequences of having negotiated"? (Full text is paywalled)
- GFK_of_xmaspast 13y agoFor one, it backfires: http://www.cfa.harvard.edu/cfawis/bowles.pdf http://www.cfa.harvard.edu/cfawis/bowles.pdf
- sn 13y agoA woman doesn't even have to negotiate to be a money grubbing bitch. At one company, I switched from W2 to being a contractor such that I could invest pre-tax in a different business. This company offered me a much higher hourly rate then I would have asked for on my own, asked me to work 40 hours/week, and then complained bitterly about how much I cost. What was I supposed to do, negotiate a lower rate?
- PhasmaFelis 13y agoWhat's with your obsession with "working out"? You keep bringing it up.
- cube_yellow 13y ago1. I don't do it enough myself, so I'm projecting my anger/disappointment. 2. In the past months I've come to notice that I respect built men so much more than average guys, and how many social ills could be solved if every guy just lifted heavy weights a few times a week.
- illuminate 13y agoYour admitted sense of self-loathing doesn't make you a particularly good candidate on how to behave properly. If a woman doesn't value you, it's because of how you feel about them and not because you're not bulked up enough.
- PhasmaFelis 13y agoWell, I appreciate your honesty. You should perhaps consider that you're projecting your own self-loathing onto other people. One's physical fitness has nothing to do with the quality of one's character, and the world would not magically become a better place if all us fat dudes got visited by the Muscle Fairy.
- cube_yellow 13y agoDedication towards improving fitness is certainly a reflection of character. I honestly can't think of anything in the world that wouldn't be better if every skinny/fat guy started losing fat and gaining muscle.
- Dewie 13y agoLifting weights is the white collar suburban version of being 'alpha'.