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CardDav should be #1 priority. If I can't sync my contacts what use is a phone with FirefoxOS?

duiker101 13y ago
#1 https://github.com/mozilla-b2g/gaia https://github.com/mozilla-b2g/gaia feel free to work on it. Any contribution will be appreciated. 2# this is not marketed as a substitute to iPhone or even Android. It's mean for people that can't afford high end phones. People that if the choice is a $25 phone without contacts sync or a $100 phone with sync they will take the former. 3# A lot of people are working hard on this project improving it every day. Dismissing it like that for a quite minor thing, yes minor, seems quite childish to me.
- mkaziz 13y ago
  He's commenting on a feature he would want that's not there. IMO, that's feedback (if a little harshly worded), and should be taken as such.
  - Pacabel 13y ago
    It wasn't harshly worded at all. A phone is a communication device. Being able to quickly and easily add the contact details of other people is a very basic and critical feature to have in a phone these days. If such functionality is lacking, then the phone can indeed be considered useless.
- Pacabel 13y ago
  When a potential user expresses a very legitimate desire for some missing functionality, it leaves a very bad impression when that user is then told to add the functionality himself or herself. It also doesn't help to refer to that very legitimate feature request as "childish", especially when it involves core functionality that's very critical to many users.
  - pjmlp 13y ago
    And one wonders themselves why GNU/Linux never got to the average joe/jane desktop.
    - rbanffy 13y ago
      GNU/Linux was never aimed at average people - it exists to solve some problems average people just don't have.
      - pjmlp 13y ago
        Funny, I use computers for almost 30 years now and that is how it was being sold since the early days. As the alternative to the evil empire of corporations for all types of users, including average people.
        rbanffy 13y ago
        It's been usable by the average user for a long time now, but first the average user needs to get it. Average users usually need a lot of help to obtain operating systems that are not sold in boxes or that don't come preinstalled. That and the selection of compatible hardware, which has not always been easy. Luckily, most hardware makers are a little better at building compatible computers these days. Worst: average users have a lot to unlearn. My mom (she's 78) is on Linux since 2006 or so. Moved from Windows to Mac and then to Linux. Never had an issue. The key is what the user expects. If you approach Linux wanting a seamless transition from Windows, you'll be frustrated. Everything makes sense, but it's different. Your software won't run. If you approach Linux without expecting it to be like Windows, you'll be happy. The average user overestimates how much they know about computing and bring their own baggage. That baggage holds them down. They want to download Nero to burn a CD. They want to download Firefox from the firefox.org website. The whole idea of a package manager is completely alien to the average user (or was, until the advent of the app store).
        pjmlp 13y ago
- r00fus 13y ago
  This feedback (CardDav support) isn't a dismissal. It's a key feature, even for a low-end smartphone. We're not talking advanced BT profiles, or Facebook sync - this is basic contacts stuff, and thanks to the CardDav standard it's pretty straightforward.
- deleted 13y ago
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- therobotking 13y ago
  If FirefoxOS is to have any chance at adoption by the general public that attitude has to go. How many people will be happy with responses like yours when they ask a very reasonable question? Not too many.
zz1 13y ago
You can read all about it here: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=859306 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=859306 Please add your vote to the issue.

#1 https://github.com/mozilla-b2g/gaia https://github.com/mozilla-b2g/gaia feel free to work on it. Any contribution will be appreciated. 2# this is not marketed as a substitute to iPhone or even Android. It's mean for people that can't afford high end phones. People that if the choice is a $25 phone without contacts sync or a $100 phone with sync they will take the former. 3# A lot of people are working hard on this project improving it every day. Dismissing it like that for a quite minor thing, yes minor, seems quite childish to me.

mkaziz 13y ago
He's commenting on a feature he would want that's not there. IMO, that's feedback (if a little harshly worded), and should be taken as such.
- Pacabel 13y ago
  It wasn't harshly worded at all. A phone is a communication device. Being able to quickly and easily add the contact details of other people is a very basic and critical feature to have in a phone these days. If such functionality is lacking, then the phone can indeed be considered useless.
Pacabel 13y ago
When a potential user expresses a very legitimate desire for some missing functionality, it leaves a very bad impression when that user is then told to add the functionality himself or herself. It also doesn't help to refer to that very legitimate feature request as "childish", especially when it involves core functionality that's very critical to many users.
- pjmlp 13y ago
  And one wonders themselves why GNU/Linux never got to the average joe/jane desktop.
  - rbanffy 13y ago
    GNU/Linux was never aimed at average people - it exists to solve some problems average people just don't have.
    - pjmlp 13y ago
      Funny, I use computers for almost 30 years now and that is how it was being sold since the early days. As the alternative to the evil empire of corporations for all types of users, including average people.
      - rbanffy 13y ago
        It's been usable by the average user for a long time now, but first the average user needs to get it. Average users usually need a lot of help to obtain operating systems that are not sold in boxes or that don't come preinstalled. That and the selection of compatible hardware, which has not always been easy. Luckily, most hardware makers are a little better at building compatible computers these days. Worst: average users have a lot to unlearn. My mom (she's 78) is on Linux since 2006 or so. Moved from Windows to Mac and then to Linux. Never had an issue. The key is what the user expects. If you approach Linux wanting a seamless transition from Windows, you'll be frustrated. Everything makes sense, but it's different. Your software won't run. If you approach Linux without expecting it to be like Windows, you'll be happy. The average user overestimates how much they know about computing and bring their own baggage. That baggage holds them down. They want to download Nero to burn a CD. They want to download Firefox from the firefox.org website. The whole idea of a package manager is completely alien to the average user (or was, until the advent of the app store).
        pjmlp 13y ago
r00fus 13y ago
This feedback (CardDav support) isn't a dismissal. It's a key feature, even for a low-end smartphone. We're not talking advanced BT profiles, or Facebook sync - this is basic contacts stuff, and thanks to the CardDav standard it's pretty straightforward.
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therobotking 13y ago
If FirefoxOS is to have any chance at adoption by the general public that attitude has to go. How many people will be happy with responses like yours when they ask a very reasonable question? Not too many.

zz1 13y ago

You can read all about it here: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=859306 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=859306 Please add your vote to the issue.