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Obama is about to be pawnd by Putin. This is going to make him look extremely weak. If I was on his national security team, I would push for an immediate no-fly

Obama is about to be pawnd by Putin. This is going to make him look extremely weak. If I was on his national security team, I would push for an immediate no-fly zone in Syria. Then, in March, when the Ukraine dissolves into 2 separate countries via referendum, the US will at least have gained something from Russia's blundering.

ZanyProgrammer 13y ago
Pawnd? WTF? So, Obama is an imperialist if he sends in troops or supports the Ukrainian government (and there's zero chance of the former happening) or he's a dunce who gets pawnd by Putin? Seems like you've been suckered in by the cult of tough guy macho Putin.
- davidw 13y ago
  > Seems like you've been suckered Seems like, from your comment history, that you've been suckered into a Political Discussion on HN :-) As they say: "the only winning move is not to play the game"
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- crudbuster 13y ago
  He is a tough guy. He just invaded a country by force and effectively told Obama to shutup up and sit down. It's Obama's move now. If he does nothing now, will he also do nothing when North Korea rolls into the South? The thugs are watching and learning.
  - ZanyProgrammer 13y ago
    Except...Ukraine is in no way comparable to Korea. Maybe there are 30000 American troops in Ukraine that I didn't hear about?
    - crudbuster 13y ago
      Try Taiwan then.
  - dragonwriter 13y ago
    > He is a tough guy. He just invaded a country by force and effectively told Obama to shutup up and sit down. It's Obama's move now. Er, no, its the Ukraine's move now. > If he does nothing now, will he also do nothing when North Korea rolls into the South? Does the US have a mutual defense treaty with and prepositioned large military forces in the Ukraine? How about South Korea? Seems to me, the two situations aren't comparable.
afterburner 13y ago
Looking weak? You realize Putin looks weak if he doesn't defend Crimea, with an actual majority Russian population and an actual Russian naval base. You want to start running the US like Russia, jumping at every threat and feeling insecure at every turn? Stop thinking about appearances of weakness, that is not a path to emulate, it is the path of tyrants and despots.

ZanyProgrammer 13y ago

Pawnd? WTF? So, Obama is an imperialist if he sends in troops or supports the Ukrainian government (and there's zero chance of the former happening) or he's a dunce who gets pawnd by Putin? Seems like you've been suckered in by the cult of tough guy macho Putin.

davidw 13y ago
> Seems like you've been suckered Seems like, from your comment history, that you've been suckered into a Political Discussion on HN :-) As they say: "the only winning move is not to play the game"
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crudbuster 13y ago
He is a tough guy. He just invaded a country by force and effectively told Obama to shutup up and sit down. It's Obama's move now. If he does nothing now, will he also do nothing when North Korea rolls into the South? The thugs are watching and learning.
- ZanyProgrammer 13y ago
  Except...Ukraine is in no way comparable to Korea. Maybe there are 30000 American troops in Ukraine that I didn't hear about?
  - crudbuster 13y ago
    Try Taiwan then.
- dragonwriter 13y ago
  > He is a tough guy. He just invaded a country by force and effectively told Obama to shutup up and sit down. It's Obama's move now. Er, no, its the Ukraine's move now. > If he does nothing now, will he also do nothing when North Korea rolls into the South? Does the US have a mutual defense treaty with and prepositioned large military forces in the Ukraine? How about South Korea? Seems to me, the two situations aren't comparable.

afterburner 13y ago

Looking weak? You realize Putin looks weak if he doesn't defend Crimea, with an actual majority Russian population and an actual Russian naval base. You want to start running the US like Russia, jumping at every threat and feeling insecure at every turn? Stop thinking about appearances of weakness, that is not a path to emulate, it is the path of tyrants and despots.