It seems like the conversation on HN in general oscillates back and forth about fighting fire with fire and not acknowledging there can be many ways to put out

It seems like the conversation on HN in general oscillates back and forth about fighting fire with fire and not acknowledging there can be many ways to put out a fire... People upset about the corporate-governmental surveillance state ever-present globally want those in power to change without changing their own collective behaviors seems to crowd out any discussion about other ideas that probably would be eaiser/more effective to implement by taking advantage of such realities and less focus on imposing crypto fantasies that go against the flow of current collective human behavior... Here's an idea seldom mentioned here: have you thought about removing the oxygen that enables the fire to burn?