This is like saying we should thank Sun for Java Applets, because they gave us web sockets, 3d graphics, etc in the browser. They dragged the whole industry in

This is like saying we should thank Sun for Java Applets, because they gave us web sockets, 3d graphics, etc in the browser. They dragged the whole industry into the future! The could do what ajax does before microsoft "invented" XMLHttpRequest... Or we could admit, that coming up with proprietary crap on the web doesn't mean much, the hard part is making it work for everyone.