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Ask HN: Why is Apple App store asking password for free apps?

I get that Apple should (and does) ask password when you want to download paid apps. But even in the case of stolen iPhones, why is it important to check identity for free apps ? Is is anyhow related to avoid fake downloads / bots ?

shellab 13y ago
Probably for the same reason you have to enter your password to install stuff on a computer. It's a security layer to make sure only the owner is installing software on the phone.
- alexeichemenda 13y ago
  Yes but the User Experience on a computer is not the same at all. On a real keyboard, typing is much faster and therefore the pain is much smaller. Mobile is on the go, usually apps are designed to make everything easier for the end user, and Apple is usually good at doing exactly that. Except here.
  - jasonlotito 13y ago
    I don't have to enter my password. I just put my finger on the home button.
    - alexeichemenda 13y ago
      You're right, me too. But this is valid only for iPhone 5S. I'm talking more globally across Apple devices.
- alexeichemenda 13y ago
  And also apps aren't necessarily sandboxed on your computer, so you could damage your computer by installing new software. (Which is why you want to make sure the owner is installing it.) You can't do that on an iPhone anyway, so it seems like identity check is useless.
codez 13y ago
As well as for security, I believe it's to help with things like purchase history, recommendations etc. technically even though it's free, it's still a purchase. If you change your phone it's easy to back up or remember the apps you had installed by referencing purchase history and stuff. I'm not sure also but if something goes from being free to paid, you are covered to still get it free but that is purely speculative.
aaronjb 13y ago
Also, if it's set up to, it will sync automatically to all your devices via iCloud. This could be exploited I guess.
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hudey123 13y ago
Might have something to do with age requirement or age appropriateness - make sure kids can't install apps on mom and dad's phone without permission because they need a password.
gregcohn 13y ago
One reason may be to verify what territory the user is from in order to match it to the developer's permissions. If you have an app that is released only in the U.S. for whatever technical, business, or IP reasons, it would be matched against the downloading user's registered territory (as opposed to current location), which obviously requires a logged-in state. [update] also would help the app store keep track of apps a user already has downloaded.

shellab 13y ago

Probably for the same reason you have to enter your password to install stuff on a computer. It's a security layer to make sure only the owner is installing software on the phone.

alexeichemenda 13y ago
Yes but the User Experience on a computer is not the same at all. On a real keyboard, typing is much faster and therefore the pain is much smaller. Mobile is on the go, usually apps are designed to make everything easier for the end user, and Apple is usually good at doing exactly that. Except here.
- jasonlotito 13y ago
  I don't have to enter my password. I just put my finger on the home button.
  - alexeichemenda 13y ago
    You're right, me too. But this is valid only for iPhone 5S. I'm talking more globally across Apple devices.
alexeichemenda 13y ago
And also apps aren't necessarily sandboxed on your computer, so you could damage your computer by installing new software. (Which is why you want to make sure the owner is installing it.) You can't do that on an iPhone anyway, so it seems like identity check is useless.

codez 13y ago

As well as for security, I believe it's to help with things like purchase history, recommendations etc. technically even though it's free, it's still a purchase. If you change your phone it's easy to back up or remember the apps you had installed by referencing purchase history and stuff. I'm not sure also but if something goes from being free to paid, you are covered to still get it free but that is purely speculative.

aaronjb 13y ago

Also, if it's set up to, it will sync automatically to all your devices via iCloud. This could be exploited I guess.

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hudey123 13y ago

Might have something to do with age requirement or age appropriateness - make sure kids can't install apps on mom and dad's phone without permission because they need a password.

gregcohn 13y ago

One reason may be to verify what territory the user is from in order to match it to the developer's permissions. If you have an app that is released only in the U.S. for whatever technical, business, or IP reasons, it would be matched against the downloading user's registered territory (as opposed to current location), which obviously requires a logged-in state. [update] also would help the app store keep track of apps a user already has downloaded.