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That people are avoiding Windows 8+ is a side affect, it's not the problem. The problem is that developers have been (and are continuing to) fleeing Windows lik

by Touche 13y ago

That people are avoiding Windows 8+ is a side affect, it's not the problem. The problem is that developers have been (and are continuing to) fleeing Windows like it's the plague. The solution is to either radically make Windows more developer friendly or open source Windows. At the very least open source XP which you have no interest in supporting. Stick it on GitHub and accept pull requests.

talmand 13y ago
But I thought one of the bullet points of Win8 was that it was more developer friendly. When you say developer friendly, what do you mean by that? Seems to me you can develop more or less whatever you want in numerous different ways. Are you talking about developing on the core? As for open sourcing a previous version, there's always something like ReactOS, http://www.reactos.org/ http://www.reactos.org/.
- Touche 13y ago
  Microsoft's idea of developer friendliness is always aimed at high-level. Windows is developer friendly as long as you use their tools/languages. Developers want to choose their own tools, so they should make that easier / more integrated.
  - talmand 13y ago
    I'm not a Windows developer, but I'm fairly certain there are options of tools/languages for Windows development that are not offered directly from Microsoft. Again, are we talking about developing applications to run on Windows or developing on the core?
    - Touche 13y ago
      Low-level applications/libraries. Things we take for granted on other OSes like alternative shells, alternative terminal emulators, language bindings for Win32 gui.
      - talmand 13y ago
        Ok, I understand now.
- jstelly 13y ago
  Using Windows 8 as a windows development platform is inferior to windows 7 if you target legacy users (windows XP) because Windows 8 does not support installing SDKs like DirectX9. You can still compile for those targets but you can't run some of the most useful debug stuff anymore.
kayoone 13y ago
I dont see why Windows 8 would be any less developer friendly than OSX for example. Of course they have their own platform stuff (and OSX has as well) but you don't need to use it. Even for web development as most people today use vagrant to virtualize their development enviroment, i don't see a difference. I am actually thinking about going back to windows because i grow worried about the Apple platform lock in and their general direction with OSX/iOS

by Touche 13y ago

talmand 13y ago

But I thought one of the bullet points of Win8 was that it was more developer friendly. When you say developer friendly, what do you mean by that? Seems to me you can develop more or less whatever you want in numerous different ways. Are you talking about developing on the core? As for open sourcing a previous version, there's always something like ReactOS, http://www.reactos.org/ http://www.reactos.org/.

Touche 13y ago
Microsoft's idea of developer friendliness is always aimed at high-level. Windows is developer friendly as long as you use their tools/languages. Developers want to choose their own tools, so they should make that easier / more integrated.
- talmand 13y ago
  I'm not a Windows developer, but I'm fairly certain there are options of tools/languages for Windows development that are not offered directly from Microsoft. Again, are we talking about developing applications to run on Windows or developing on the core?
  - Touche 13y ago
    Low-level applications/libraries. Things we take for granted on other OSes like alternative shells, alternative terminal emulators, language bindings for Win32 gui.
    - talmand 13y ago
      Ok, I understand now.
jstelly 13y ago
Using Windows 8 as a windows development platform is inferior to windows 7 if you target legacy users (windows XP) because Windows 8 does not support installing SDKs like DirectX9. You can still compile for those targets but you can't run some of the most useful debug stuff anymore.

kayoone 13y ago

I dont see why Windows 8 would be any less developer friendly than OSX for example. Of course they have their own platform stuff (and OSX has as well) but you don't need to use it. Even for web development as most people today use vagrant to virtualize their development enviroment, i don't see a difference. I am actually thinking about going back to windows because i grow worried about the Apple platform lock in and their general direction with OSX/iOS