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Atom: Now with pair programming

144 points by jamest 13y ago

bpeebles 13y ago
Do we really need random Atom extensions posted two hours after the first commit? Is this the shortest time from initial commit (like, it looks like this is the real first commit instead of a squash-like commit for release)?
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- gnur 13y ago
  I guess we do, this really shows the extensible nature of Atom. So you get an idea, you pull some code together (only 70 lines!) and it works. I think that is reason enough to post it.
gerbal 13y ago
Is it really "now with pair programming" when the software hasn't been released? Wouldn't it be "Atom: Eventually with pair programming"?
- steveklabnik 13y ago
  Some people are in fact using it now. You just had to snag an invite. Beta software can gain features.
  - odonnellryan 13y ago
    Even so, isn't it only for OSX?
    - sandyarmstrong 13y ago
      Windows and Linux packages are on the way, according to the devs.
    - steveklabnik 13y ago
      Yes, which is why I'm not yet able to try out my own copy :/
lquist 13y ago
I have used firepad as well as other online collaborative text editors extensively, and believe it to be the best one on the market. Go Firebase!
- schrijver 13y ago
  Isn’t Firebase an externally hosted database-as-a-service? Seems like a no-go for me in post-Snowden times.
  - davej 13y ago
    It depends what you're doing with it. If, for example, you're collaborating together on an open-source project then I don't see any problem.
anant 13y ago
It was so much fun to build this package. Atom is very modular, and any piece of functionality in the editor is open to being extended. The documentation still has some ways to go (events aren't documented, for example), but I'm excited about the future of this editor!
- 21echoes 13y ago
  hey anant! i was your intern at mozilla 3 years ago... great to see you popping up again :) this plugin looks awesome
  - anant 13y ago
    heya, glad you like it!
- bsima 13y ago
  Shouldn't this package be called "covalent"?
  - infogulch 13y ago
    Perfect.
- bashcoder 13y ago
  Looks great - impressive feature, and congrats! We tested it a bit and you're off to a solid start. We were having a few issues with multiple tabs and such, but we'll post github issues when we have repeatable results.
  - anant 13y ago
    Thanks! Currently sessions are scoped to a window, so you may have better luck opening another session in a new window. Do file an issue, we should certainly fix this.
- davis_m 13y ago
  Is there any trick to getting a beta to try this out?
joemaller1 13y ago
Having painfully hacked together a few packages for ST (and TM) over the years, I'm impressed at how fast they pulled this together. If it's this easy to extend, Atom could have a very bright future.
- steveklabnik 13y ago
  > I'm impressed at how fast they pulled this together. Not that fast: > But seriously, I've gotten to watch the development of Atom over the last two years and am soooo excited to see this baby ship. https://twitter.com/nrrrdcore/status/438805221574066177 https://twitter.com/nrrrdcore/status/438805221574066177
  - zbruhnke 13y ago
    I think he literally meant the speed at which the package was created for Atom Steve ;)
    - deleted 13y ago
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    - steveklabnik 13y ago
      Oh, yeah, maybe that. :) Language is hard. :( I read it as "Wow, Atom is really extensible-friendly, even though they've only been making it a short while."
the1 13y ago
it's time to stop using github.
- voltagex_ 13y ago
  Why? And use what instead?
  - freshyill 13y ago
    Bitbucket? Gitbucket? There are viable alternatives for many purposes. That doesn't answer the why, though.
yeonhoyoon 13y ago
Firebase and their data sync api's are really great. You could really build a lot of things if you're creative. PS. It would be nice if anyone could send me an invitation. thanks!
KhalilK 13y ago
Any Windows package?
- himal 13y ago
  It's on the way https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7316893 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7316893
cwiley 13y ago
I'd love an invite. How long has everyone waited to get one?
- sergiotapia 13y ago
  Kinda offtopic: I have three Atom invites in case anyone wants one just send me an email (in profile). Or if you want just ask one from http://twitter.com/mdo http://twitter.com/mdo
  - sergiotapia 13y ago
    Hi folks, sorry I'm already out of invites. Hope you guys enjoy using Atom!
    - cwiley 13y ago
      Ok, thanks. If anyone else has one, please consider me. My email is in my profile!
mbillie1 13y ago
Very cool! This has been, in my experience, a factor limiting the use of GUI editors in places with a heavy emphasis on remote pairing. Of course not everyone does this, but if you work someplace that does, this is a big selling point. I'm excited about this!
shaan7 13y ago
Been doing this since a long time ;) http://scummos.blogspot.in/2013/08/gsoc-collaborative-text-editing-in-kate.html http://scummos.blogspot.in/2013/08/gsoc-collaborative-text-e...
vbsteven 13y ago
It's promising to see that features like this can be hacked into the editor in a very short amount of time. I would love to find out what emacs-like features I could implement myself. Anyone that can help me with an invite? (email in my profile)
CmonDev 13y ago
Will this notepad ever evolve into an IDE (automated refactoring, static analysis, intellisense)?
davej 13y ago
This is why Atom is so great. New packages can be quickly hacked up using existing web libraries and technologies.
WesleyJohnson 13y ago
I've never really done pair programming, but I feel like I'd benefit from it. My boss was looking over my shoulder the other day while I doing some Clojure, at which I'm still very new, and had some suggestions on my workflow. It's on my list of things to look into. Anyone have any invites left, by chance? Email in my profile. :)

144 points by jamest 13y ago

Do we really need random Atom extensions posted two hours after the first commit? Is this the shortest time from initial commit (like, it looks like this is the real first commit instead of a squash-like commit for release)?

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gnur 13y ago
I guess we do, this really shows the extensible nature of Atom. So you get an idea, you pull some code together (only 70 lines!) and it works. I think that is reason enough to post it.

gerbal 13y ago

Is it really "now with pair programming" when the software hasn't been released? Wouldn't it be "Atom: Eventually with pair programming"?

steveklabnik 13y ago
Some people are in fact using it now. You just had to snag an invite. Beta software can gain features.
- odonnellryan 13y ago
  Even so, isn't it only for OSX?
  - sandyarmstrong 13y ago
    Windows and Linux packages are on the way, according to the devs.
  - steveklabnik 13y ago
    Yes, which is why I'm not yet able to try out my own copy :/

lquist 13y ago

I have used firepad as well as other online collaborative text editors extensively, and believe it to be the best one on the market. Go Firebase!

schrijver 13y ago
Isn’t Firebase an externally hosted database-as-a-service? Seems like a no-go for me in post-Snowden times.
- davej 13y ago
  It depends what you're doing with it. If, for example, you're collaborating together on an open-source project then I don't see any problem.

anant 13y ago

It was so much fun to build this package. Atom is very modular, and any piece of functionality in the editor is open to being extended. The documentation still has some ways to go (events aren't documented, for example), but I'm excited about the future of this editor!

21echoes 13y ago
hey anant! i was your intern at mozilla 3 years ago... great to see you popping up again :) this plugin looks awesome
- anant 13y ago
  heya, glad you like it!
bsima 13y ago
Shouldn't this package be called "covalent"?
- infogulch 13y ago
  Perfect.
bashcoder 13y ago
Looks great - impressive feature, and congrats! We tested it a bit and you're off to a solid start. We were having a few issues with multiple tabs and such, but we'll post github issues when we have repeatable results.
- anant 13y ago
  Thanks! Currently sessions are scoped to a window, so you may have better luck opening another session in a new window. Do file an issue, we should certainly fix this.
davis_m 13y ago
Is there any trick to getting a beta to try this out?

joemaller1 13y ago

Having painfully hacked together a few packages for ST (and TM) over the years, I'm impressed at how fast they pulled this together. If it's this easy to extend, Atom could have a very bright future.

steveklabnik 13y ago
> I'm impressed at how fast they pulled this together. Not that fast: > But seriously, I've gotten to watch the development of Atom over the last two years and am soooo excited to see this baby ship. https://twitter.com/nrrrdcore/status/438805221574066177 https://twitter.com/nrrrdcore/status/438805221574066177
- zbruhnke 13y ago
  I think he literally meant the speed at which the package was created for Atom Steve ;)
  - deleted 13y ago
    [deleted]
  - steveklabnik 13y ago
    Oh, yeah, maybe that. :) Language is hard. :( I read it as "Wow, Atom is really extensible-friendly, even though they've only been making it a short while."

the1 13y ago

it's time to stop using github.

voltagex_ 13y ago
Why? And use what instead?
- freshyill 13y ago
  Bitbucket? Gitbucket? There are viable alternatives for many purposes. That doesn't answer the why, though.

yeonhoyoon 13y ago

Firebase and their data sync api's are really great. You could really build a lot of things if you're creative. PS. It would be nice if anyone could send me an invitation. thanks!

KhalilK 13y ago

Any Windows package?

himal 13y ago
It's on the way https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7316893 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7316893

cwiley 13y ago

I'd love an invite. How long has everyone waited to get one?

sergiotapia 13y ago
Kinda offtopic: I have three Atom invites in case anyone wants one just send me an email (in profile). Or if you want just ask one from http://twitter.com/mdo http://twitter.com/mdo
- sergiotapia 13y ago
  Hi folks, sorry I'm already out of invites. Hope you guys enjoy using Atom!
  - cwiley 13y ago
    Ok, thanks. If anyone else has one, please consider me. My email is in my profile!

mbillie1 13y ago

Very cool! This has been, in my experience, a factor limiting the use of GUI editors in places with a heavy emphasis on remote pairing. Of course not everyone does this, but if you work someplace that does, this is a big selling point. I'm excited about this!

shaan7 13y ago

Been doing this since a long time ;) http://scummos.blogspot.in/2013/08/gsoc-collaborative-text-editing-in-kate.html http://scummos.blogspot.in/2013/08/gsoc-collaborative-text-e...

vbsteven 13y ago

It's promising to see that features like this can be hacked into the editor in a very short amount of time. I would love to find out what emacs-like features I could implement myself. Anyone that can help me with an invite? (email in my profile)

CmonDev 13y ago

Will this notepad ever evolve into an IDE (automated refactoring, static analysis, intellisense)?

davej 13y ago

This is why Atom is so great. New packages can be quickly hacked up using existing web libraries and technologies.

WesleyJohnson 13y ago

I've never really done pair programming, but I feel like I'd benefit from it. My boss was looking over my shoulder the other day while I doing some Clojure, at which I'm still very new, and had some suggestions on my workflow. It's on my list of things to look into. Anyone have any invites left, by chance? Email in my profile. :)