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Unless Apple is omitting something or there’s some backdoor tucked into their many-layers-deep encryption (which, while unlikely, isn’t inconceivable) they real
by Osiris 13y ago
Unless Apple is omitting something or there’s some backdoor tucked into their many-layers-deep encryption (which, while unlikely, isn’t inconceivable) they really can’t read your iMessages without a fairly insane amount of effort.
That is, assuming, that there isn't some code in the app that allows Apple to request that the app send your private key up to the server. It's conceivable that in order to comply with law enforcement, for example, that Apple could just tell the app to send up your private key so that it can decrypt any message they have stored.
There's also no way to verify that your messages have, in fact, been removed from their services.
- na85 13y ago> (which, while unlikely, isn’t inconceivable) Not only do I think it's not unlikely, I actually think it's pretty much a certainty that Apple has a backdoor in their code. After the slides detailing how easy it is for NSA to break into Apple phones I'd be simply shocked if they hadn't inserted such a vulnerability. Sounds to me like the author is applying a nice coat of white wash.
- nemothekid 13y agoAfter reading a post by a Google engineer on this issue, I'm going to err on the side of believing that Google, Apple, and others aren't actually actively inserting back doors into their code. https://plus.google.com/108799184931623330498/posts/SfYy8xbDWGG https://plus.google.com/108799184931623330498/posts/SfYy8xbD...
- michaelt 13y agoBy all accounts, these secret court orders often come with gagging clauses - which would likely extend to even gagging one employee from telling another. For all I know the guy next to me could be under a secret court order forcing him to insert backdoors. Of course, as there's no way to disprove this hypothesis, and there's no proof of it, you can still err any way you like :)
- brisance 13y agoSo why would Apple voluntarily issue an update to fix the problem if they were gagged under a secret court order?
- anfedorov 13y agoAfter the slides detailing how easy it is for NSA to break into Apple phones I'd be simply shocked if they hadn't inserted such a vulnerability. The slides pertained to physical access to an iOS 6 device, which was publicly known as insecure before the NSA revelations: http://apple.slashdot.org/story/13/08/01/2024212/iphone-hacked-in-under-60-seconds-using-malicious-charger http://apple.slashdot.org/story/13/08/01/2024212/iphone-hack...