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I find it interesting people are all for protecting their privacy and against NSA intrusions, yet the US just handed over millions of people's health records to

I find it interesting people are all for protecting their privacy and against NSA intrusions, yet the US just handed over millions of people's health records to a government who clearly doesn't care about their privacy. I don't understand this logic at all.

PythonicAlpha 13y ago
I am not so current in US politics. What do you mean?
- at-fates-hands 13y ago
  http://www.trunews.com/obamacare-law-creates-data-services-hub-tracks-social-behavioral-data/ http://www.trunews.com/obamacare-law-creates-data-services-h... The federally-run exchanges, euphemistically called “new health insurance marketplaces,” are accompanied by collection of a wide variety of personal data, which can now be legally shared numerous faceless government agencies — agencies which previously had to snoop, steal, or spy to get it. No longer will any of our intimate medical details be reasonably considered either private or protected. To facilitate this forfeiture of individual privacy, the Department of Health and Human Services has created a massive, comprehensive database to record and store Americans’ personal information called the Federal Data Services Hub. The Government Accountability Office (GAO) reports that the purpose of the Data Hub is to provide “electronic, near real-time access to federal data” and “access to state and third party data sources needed to verify consumer-eligibility information.” No longer will any of our intimate medical details be reasonably considered either private or protected.
  - PythonicAlpha 13y ago
    OK, now I better understand. As I am not an US citizen, I am not affected by it, but you are right, that this seems to be a scandal of its own. But you also can see it complementary to all the surveillance stuff. It just seems, that the Obama gov. does not care to much about the privacy of US people. I think, this road taken, by the country, that once was the big model for many countries like the one I live in, is a really bad omen for freedom in the whole world.
    - happyscrappy 13y ago
      >I am not an US citizen, I am not affected by it Being in Germany, you are already in fully socialized medicine, so any battle for privacy of health records is already lost.
      - PythonicAlpha 13y ago
        I don't currently know. The socialized medicine is not the problem. We once had a system, that the full records where hidden from the health funds. But I think, recently this principle was weakened -- but not because of "socialized medicine" but just because of the infamous "electronic health card" -- governments like to play with new technical gadgets (that bring more costs and bureaucracy and no gain).
AJ007 13y ago
Who is "people"? The average US citizen doesn't express much concern about the NSA & GCHQ intrusions. Many suffer from celebrity-ism and fantasize about having paparazzi follow and photograph them everywhere. Even after admitting blanket spying occurs on elected Senators, there are no indictments or criminal sanctions. What is a little stranger to me are those on hacker news that want the government to gain complete control over their personal autonomy with a "basic income." While they insist that the income would be unconditional, it would be from a government which currently revokes many rights -- voting, free speech, and even life from citizens and non-citizens alike.

PythonicAlpha 13y ago

I am not so current in US politics. What do you mean?

at-fates-hands 13y ago
http://www.trunews.com/obamacare-law-creates-data-services-hub-tracks-social-behavioral-data/ http://www.trunews.com/obamacare-law-creates-data-services-h... The federally-run exchanges, euphemistically called “new health insurance marketplaces,” are accompanied by collection of a wide variety of personal data, which can now be legally shared numerous faceless government agencies — agencies which previously had to snoop, steal, or spy to get it. No longer will any of our intimate medical details be reasonably considered either private or protected. To facilitate this forfeiture of individual privacy, the Department of Health and Human Services has created a massive, comprehensive database to record and store Americans’ personal information called the Federal Data Services Hub. The Government Accountability Office (GAO) reports that the purpose of the Data Hub is to provide “electronic, near real-time access to federal data” and “access to state and third party data sources needed to verify consumer-eligibility information.” No longer will any of our intimate medical details be reasonably considered either private or protected.
- PythonicAlpha 13y ago
  OK, now I better understand. As I am not an US citizen, I am not affected by it, but you are right, that this seems to be a scandal of its own. But you also can see it complementary to all the surveillance stuff. It just seems, that the Obama gov. does not care to much about the privacy of US people. I think, this road taken, by the country, that once was the big model for many countries like the one I live in, is a really bad omen for freedom in the whole world.
  - happyscrappy 13y ago
    >I am not an US citizen, I am not affected by it Being in Germany, you are already in fully socialized medicine, so any battle for privacy of health records is already lost.
    - PythonicAlpha 13y ago
      I don't currently know. The socialized medicine is not the problem. We once had a system, that the full records where hidden from the health funds. But I think, recently this principle was weakened -- but not because of "socialized medicine" but just because of the infamous "electronic health card" -- governments like to play with new technical gadgets (that bring more costs and bureaucracy and no gain).

AJ007 13y ago

Who is "people"? The average US citizen doesn't express much concern about the NSA & GCHQ intrusions. Many suffer from celebrity-ism and fantasize about having paparazzi follow and photograph them everywhere. Even after admitting blanket spying occurs on elected Senators, there are no indictments or criminal sanctions. What is a little stranger to me are those on hacker news that want the government to gain complete control over their personal autonomy with a "basic income." While they insist that the income would be unconditional, it would be from a government which currently revokes many rights -- voting, free speech, and even life from citizens and non-citizens alike.