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From the video: > You can easily monitor the status of each message you send and know if and when it gets read Huh? How?

by JTon 13y ago

fxthea 13y ago
Maybe pixels are placed in the emails?
- matt_vera 13y ago
  Most likely yes. Same as how Sendgrid and Yesware do it.
lutusp 13y ago
There are a number of reliable ways to detect a read. The most common is to sent an HTML-format message with an embedded graphic link to the sender's server.
- manuelflara 13y ago
  That's not reliable enough. A lot of email clients (or users) have images off by default, at least when reading emails from new senders.
  - lutusp 13y ago
    > That's not reliable enough. It's reliable enough for a spammer. Remember spam is a numbers game -- things only have to work as hoped a small percentage of the time for the system to work.
- mariusz79 13y ago
  Try it with my Mutt:)
- chacham15 13y ago
  Note: this will not work if the person you are emailing is using gmail because gmail caches (and changes the address of) all images in the email so it appears that the image was opened immediately.
- dragonwriter 13y ago
  Seems to me that that can, in principle, produce both false negatives (images turned off in client) and false positives (if a client were to parse HTML-format message and retrieve embedded graphics autonomously before the user actually displayed the message for reading). Even ignoring the fact that "my client has displayed the message, including any embedded images" is not equivalent to "I have read the message" (which is especially a factor in clients with a preview pane, where simply being the most recent message when the client is opened may result in the former condition, but quite often not the latter if the user is opening the client to send a message or look for a particular message.)
ezrameanshelp 13y ago
This is a future feature and we are examining which method is best and whether people actually want it. Would you adjust the content of a bump based on whether or not the person has viewed the email? May cross the Creepy Line. Maybe not. Open to feedback.

From the video: > You can easily monitor the status of each message you send and know if and when it gets read Huh? How?

by JTon 13y ago

From the video: > You can easily monitor the status of each message you send and know if and when it gets read Huh? How?

fxthea 13y ago

Maybe pixels are placed in the emails?

matt_vera 13y ago
Most likely yes. Same as how Sendgrid and Yesware do it.

lutusp 13y ago

There are a number of reliable ways to detect a read. The most common is to sent an HTML-format message with an embedded graphic link to the sender's server.

manuelflara 13y ago
That's not reliable enough. A lot of email clients (or users) have images off by default, at least when reading emails from new senders.
- lutusp 13y ago
  > That's not reliable enough. It's reliable enough for a spammer. Remember spam is a numbers game -- things only have to work as hoped a small percentage of the time for the system to work.
mariusz79 13y ago
Try it with my Mutt:)
chacham15 13y ago
Note: this will not work if the person you are emailing is using gmail because gmail caches (and changes the address of) all images in the email so it appears that the image was opened immediately.
dragonwriter 13y ago
Seems to me that that can, in principle, produce both false negatives (images turned off in client) and false positives (if a client were to parse HTML-format message and retrieve embedded graphics autonomously before the user actually displayed the message for reading). Even ignoring the fact that "my client has displayed the message, including any embedded images" is not equivalent to "I have read the message" (which is especially a factor in clients with a preview pane, where simply being the most recent message when the client is opened may result in the former condition, but quite often not the latter if the user is opening the client to send a message or look for a particular message.)

ezrameanshelp 13y ago

This is a future feature and we are examining which method is best and whether people actually want it. Would you adjust the content of a bump based on whether or not the person has viewed the email? May cross the Creepy Line. Maybe not. Open to feedback.