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I know better than to try to give advice when I can't relate at all to her situation. But I would just like to take this opportunity to say "fuck you" to her r

by ef4 13y ago

I know better than to try to give advice when I can't relate at all to her situation. But I would just like to take this opportunity to say "fuck you" to her relatives in the United States. Economic opportunity and personal liberty are a package deal, you want one without the other and you're playing with fire. You're guaranteed to lose, either quickly or slowly. Quickly if this young woman continues down the path she's clearly already on and calls down the weight of the state on your heads. Slowly if you win this round, only to see your grandchildren grow up fully-Americanized.

rjzzleep 13y ago
uh ok, i tell you what. i grew up in germany, i'm highly educated, i speak fluent german without accent(you know like most people that were born in the us, speak english without an accent). in fact i speak 4 languages fluent+ a little of a couple others. everyone that had to deal with me on a personal level tried to hire me at some point. when i came back from the states i met a buttload of people that were telling me how racist the americans are. so i asked one just a few days back. "tell me, so everyones telling me how racist they are in the south, and it's kinda true, but how do you guys treat black people over here anyway?" you know what she answered? "it's different" when i entered the train station with my bike yesterday, i almost got beaten up by security guards. you know why? because i got into the train station with a bike, and well just because ... ;) and you know what the two germans did that saw that? they told me this: "you better run away, they might come down and beat you up" talk about opportunity. yes, germany gives you the opportunity to study. for free. in some of the best universities of the planet. but you pay the price in a different manner. you know how much the TSA sucks? you wanna know why you don't hear about patdowns in germany? because they're not even newsworthy. edit: people make their choices, so what the op does is up to them. i consider it a little foolish. but on other hand think about it. it doesn't seem like she wants to get banned for life. otherwise she could have just posted some stupid thing on twitter like others have done
- dTal 13y ago
  In my experience, most people that were born in the U.S. speak English with an atrocious accent.
  - webkike 13y ago
    This is incredibly subjective, and I would argue altogether untrue, although that is also subjective.
  - Pitarou 13y ago
    There is extensive academic research showing that people's perceptions of an accent stem entirely from their perceptions of the social group who use that accent.
  - dTal 13y ago
    Goodness me! It was humor guys, and self-deprecating humor at that! I'm American. You know, inability to laugh at ourselves is another American stereotype... "most people that were born in the us, speak english without an accent" - how can you seriously not giggle at this statement, when the "American accent" is so iconic?
- sentenza 13y ago
  I can second the police thing. My personal experience, as a German born Germanoid of the most German kind is that interactions with the police here are just horrible. I get selected "randomly" at every traffic stop because of my long hair, but all the short-haired people I know get pulled over maybe once in ten years. The black thing, however, does not represent all of Germany. There are real regional differences here, mostly an east-west divide. (Not that it couldn't happen everywhere. Assholes are omnipresent, but the density varies.) Also, younger people tend to be a lot more cosmopolitan and relaxed around fellow dwellers with "non-standard" appearance. Edit: Another thing regarding the Bahnhof incident: The DB stormtroopers are "special" in the sense that I am actually scared of these people. Where do they even get that kind of hooligan? The regular police listens to reason and treats you with a modicum of respect, but these DB goons are basically bouncers in uniform.
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by ef4 13y ago

rjzzleep 13y ago

uh ok, i tell you what. i grew up in germany, i'm highly educated, i speak fluent german without accent(you know like most people that were born in the us, speak english without an accent). in fact i speak 4 languages fluent+ a little of a couple others. everyone that had to deal with me on a personal level tried to hire me at some point. when i came back from the states i met a buttload of people that were telling me how racist the americans are. so i asked one just a few days back. "tell me, so everyones telling me how racist they are in the south, and it's kinda true, but how do you guys treat black people over here anyway?" you know what she answered? "it's different" when i entered the train station with my bike yesterday, i almost got beaten up by security guards. you know why? because i got into the train station with a bike, and well just because ... ;) and you know what the two germans did that saw that? they told me this: "you better run away, they might come down and beat you up" talk about opportunity. yes, germany gives you the opportunity to study. for free. in some of the best universities of the planet. but you pay the price in a different manner. you know how much the TSA sucks? you wanna know why you don't hear about patdowns in germany? because they're not even newsworthy. edit: people make their choices, so what the op does is up to them. i consider it a little foolish. but on other hand think about it. it doesn't seem like she wants to get banned for life. otherwise she could have just posted some stupid thing on twitter like others have done

dTal 13y ago
In my experience, most people that were born in the U.S. speak English with an atrocious accent.
- webkike 13y ago
  This is incredibly subjective, and I would argue altogether untrue, although that is also subjective.
- Pitarou 13y ago
  There is extensive academic research showing that people's perceptions of an accent stem entirely from their perceptions of the social group who use that accent.
- dTal 13y ago
  Goodness me! It was humor guys, and self-deprecating humor at that! I'm American. You know, inability to laugh at ourselves is another American stereotype... "most people that were born in the us, speak english without an accent" - how can you seriously not giggle at this statement, when the "American accent" is so iconic?
sentenza 13y ago
I can second the police thing. My personal experience, as a German born Germanoid of the most German kind is that interactions with the police here are just horrible. I get selected "randomly" at every traffic stop because of my long hair, but all the short-haired people I know get pulled over maybe once in ten years. The black thing, however, does not represent all of Germany. There are real regional differences here, mostly an east-west divide. (Not that it couldn't happen everywhere. Assholes are omnipresent, but the density varies.) Also, younger people tend to be a lot more cosmopolitan and relaxed around fellow dwellers with "non-standard" appearance. Edit: Another thing regarding the Bahnhof incident: The DB stormtroopers are "special" in the sense that I am actually scared of these people. Where do they even get that kind of hooligan? The regular police listens to reason and treats you with a modicum of respect, but these DB goons are basically bouncers in uniform.

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