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Yeah, but I think the problem with cut-and-paste recruiter spam is that it's not really an opportunity. Most of the "offers" I get don't match my skillset and

by hnal943 13y ago

Yeah, but I think the problem with cut-and-paste recruiter spam is that it's not really an opportunity. Most of the "offers" I get don't match my skillset and would not result in a job even if I pursued them. They simply increase the noise in the channel and don't add any value to anyone.

logfromblammo 13y ago
This is further compounded by the likelihood that the jobs advertised may be sham postings that are only being spammed out to you to fulfill legal requirements for restricted visas held by imported workers. For your own amusement, try responding to one or two, and see what happens. It isn't quite so posh when you discover that the job opportunities constantly streaming into your inbox don't actually exist.
- beachstartup 13y ago
  these are all symptoms of an industry that finds its workers in high demand, which is the root of the issue we're discussing. people are complaining about being in demand.
beachstartup 13y ago
the problem with going to bars is that everyone who hits on me is not really my type. most of the 'offers' i get are from fatties and uglies or losers, and would not result in a relationship even even if i decided to sleep with them. these people simply increase the noise at the bar and don't add value to anyone. oh my god it's just like, so annoying, you know? faux outrage
- logfromblammo 13y ago
  Ok, that's almost there. Now instead of sitting at a bar, sit at a public park while reading a book. And instead of being propositioned by ugly people, let's say that they are pimps, each trying to get you to stand on their street corner. Also, you have a big, fat wedding ring, and a huge sign around your neck saying "NO PIMPS". Also, you don't know this, since you ignore them as much as you can, but the pimps' customers all have herpaidsyphichlamorrhea. And they live in Antarctica. And they won't pay you market price. But yeah, faux outrage.
  - beachstartup 13y ago
    are you seriously comparing receiving emails and voicemails from shitty recruiters to the pimping of prostitutes ... i think you're proving my point more than refuting it.
    - logfromblammo 13y ago
      No. I was pointing out how the previous analogy was flawed. People expect to talk to strangers at bars, particularly about a specific purpose. People sit on park benches to enjoy public space without being bothered by random strangers. It doesn't have to be a pimp that spams you. It could be a construction foreman asking you to fill sandbags at his worksite, or a cab dispatcher wanting you to drive around town collecting fares. Complaining about people that annoy you with offers for work that you don't want is complaining that they don't actually care what you want, not just complaining that you have so many opportunities available. But even my current employer doesn't care what I want, or even that I am an actual human being that still exists on this planet for the 128 hours a week that are not recorded on my time card. So it isn't just the recruiters. My complaint, such as it is, is that I resent the dehumanization of my industry and the diminishing levels of respect I see for people that have the same valuable skill as I do from the people that do not. Basically, I'm complaining that nerds are not popular. I can see how that complaint would be easily dismissed, even by the nerds.

by hnal943 13y ago

logfromblammo 13y ago

This is further compounded by the likelihood that the jobs advertised may be sham postings that are only being spammed out to you to fulfill legal requirements for restricted visas held by imported workers. For your own amusement, try responding to one or two, and see what happens. It isn't quite so posh when you discover that the job opportunities constantly streaming into your inbox don't actually exist.

beachstartup 13y ago
these are all symptoms of an industry that finds its workers in high demand, which is the root of the issue we're discussing. people are complaining about being in demand.

beachstartup 13y ago

the problem with going to bars is that everyone who hits on me is not really my type. most of the 'offers' i get are from fatties and uglies or losers, and would not result in a relationship even even if i decided to sleep with them. these people simply increase the noise at the bar and don't add value to anyone. oh my god it's just like, so annoying, you know? faux outrage

logfromblammo 13y ago
Ok, that's almost there. Now instead of sitting at a bar, sit at a public park while reading a book. And instead of being propositioned by ugly people, let's say that they are pimps, each trying to get you to stand on their street corner. Also, you have a big, fat wedding ring, and a huge sign around your neck saying "NO PIMPS". Also, you don't know this, since you ignore them as much as you can, but the pimps' customers all have herpaidsyphichlamorrhea. And they live in Antarctica. And they won't pay you market price. But yeah, faux outrage.
- beachstartup 13y ago
  are you seriously comparing receiving emails and voicemails from shitty recruiters to the pimping of prostitutes ... i think you're proving my point more than refuting it.
  - logfromblammo 13y ago
    No. I was pointing out how the previous analogy was flawed. People expect to talk to strangers at bars, particularly about a specific purpose. People sit on park benches to enjoy public space without being bothered by random strangers. It doesn't have to be a pimp that spams you. It could be a construction foreman asking you to fill sandbags at his worksite, or a cab dispatcher wanting you to drive around town collecting fares. Complaining about people that annoy you with offers for work that you don't want is complaining that they don't actually care what you want, not just complaining that you have so many opportunities available. But even my current employer doesn't care what I want, or even that I am an actual human being that still exists on this planet for the 128 hours a week that are not recorded on my time card. So it isn't just the recruiters. My complaint, such as it is, is that I resent the dehumanization of my industry and the diminishing levels of respect I see for people that have the same valuable skill as I do from the people that do not. Basically, I'm complaining that nerds are not popular. I can see how that complaint would be easily dismissed, even by the nerds.