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You're absolutely wrong on this. The NSA are far, far more technologically competent than we've been giving them credit - and that is precisely why the NSA rel

You're absolutely wrong on this. The NSA are far, far more technologically competent than we've been giving them credit - and that is precisely why the NSA releases have been so imporant, and chilling, to the computer industry and hacker community. The NSA are way ahead of the pack. To think of them as a stupid bungling agency, the way most people associate government TLA's, is doing the world a disservice. Their competence is terrifying - as in it literally induces terror.

zacinbusiness 13y ago
I think they are paranoid and have a blank check budget. But I don't think they are competent. If they were competent then they would know that no serious threats will be discussed in world of Warcraft or over yahoo messenger. The supposed enemy in the shadow is at least smart enough to know better. If they aren't, then they aren't smart enough to warrant the invasion if basically everyone's privacy. It just doesn't add up to me. If we are fighting super technical enemies, we must assume they are smart enough to not use basic, consumer grade chat. If they are not technically capable enough to know better than to use something like yahoo, then just send them an email with Sub7 in it. Either way, spending billions of dollars of my money to watch some millionaire banker sext with his secretary is a waste of money and of time.
- nthj 13y ago
  > If they were competent then they would know that no serious threats will be discussed in world of Warcraft or over yahoo messenger. Or they're pretending to be incompetent so they have an excuse to swallow up World of Warcraft and Yahoo Messenger chat logs. Because they don't care about terrorists, they care about logging /everything/. It's about power.
- smackfu 13y ago
  >If they were competent then they would know that no serious threats will be discussed in world of Warcraft or over yahoo messenger. I don't know, game chat systems seem like a pretty good place to conspire. Imagine something like Call of Duty, you can pretty obviously talk about attacks and targets without setting off any red flags since it would be indistinguishable from real game chat.
- fit2rule 13y ago
  Your mistake is in thinking that the NSA is fighting an enemy. Its not. It is creating one. That is why its imperative that we do something about the NSA.
- pessimizer 13y ago
  > If they were competent then they would know that no serious threats will be discussed in world of Warcraft or over yahoo messenger. No, that would be a sign that they were incompetent, because secretly communicating groups do use unusual chats, such as graphical children's chat applets, in-game communications, shoutboxes and such. Why wouldn't they?

zacinbusiness 13y ago

I think they are paranoid and have a blank check budget. But I don't think they are competent. If they were competent then they would know that no serious threats will be discussed in world of Warcraft or over yahoo messenger. The supposed enemy in the shadow is at least smart enough to know better. If they aren't, then they aren't smart enough to warrant the invasion if basically everyone's privacy. It just doesn't add up to me. If we are fighting super technical enemies, we must assume they are smart enough to not use basic, consumer grade chat. If they are not technically capable enough to know better than to use something like yahoo, then just send them an email with Sub7 in it. Either way, spending billions of dollars of my money to watch some millionaire banker sext with his secretary is a waste of money and of time.

nthj 13y ago
> If they were competent then they would know that no serious threats will be discussed in world of Warcraft or over yahoo messenger. Or they're pretending to be incompetent so they have an excuse to swallow up World of Warcraft and Yahoo Messenger chat logs. Because they don't care about terrorists, they care about logging /everything/. It's about power.
smackfu 13y ago
>If they were competent then they would know that no serious threats will be discussed in world of Warcraft or over yahoo messenger. I don't know, game chat systems seem like a pretty good place to conspire. Imagine something like Call of Duty, you can pretty obviously talk about attacks and targets without setting off any red flags since it would be indistinguishable from real game chat.
fit2rule 13y ago
Your mistake is in thinking that the NSA is fighting an enemy. Its not. It is creating one. That is why its imperative that we do something about the NSA.
pessimizer 13y ago
> If they were competent then they would know that no serious threats will be discussed in world of Warcraft or over yahoo messenger. No, that would be a sign that they were incompetent, because secretly communicating groups do use unusual chats, such as graphical children's chat applets, in-game communications, shoutboxes and such. Why wouldn't they?