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university is free in most european countries
by tyd 13y ago
university is free in most european countries
- arethuza 13y agoNot in England and here in Scotland they are "free" to Scottish students studying in Scotland. If someone from out Scotland comes here to study then fees are charged and if a Scottish student goes elsewhere in the UK then fees are charged.
- vrikis 13y agoNot quite right - in Scotland, it's actually free for all EU students EXCEPT for English, Welsh, and Northern Irish students. And as mentioned above, it's free in the sense that students don't pay, but it's all subsidised by SAAS organisation. (nothing in life is "free", right?)
- arethuza 13y agoThanks - I didn't know about that. Seems rather unfair to the rest of the UK then....
- agilebyte 13y agoThe explanation given to me was: it is possible to discriminate between students from different parts of an individual member state but not to discriminate against those from other parts of the EU.
- vrikis 13y agoExactly that, plus Scots going to study in England had to pay their fees. As a side note though, if Scotland becomes independent when voted later on this year, then "Thousands of English, Welsh and Northern Irish students will study at Scottish universities for free" [1] [1]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/universityeducation/1020373/English-students-could-get-free-tuition-at-Scottish-universities.html http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/universityeducation/102...
- rahimnathwani 13y agoif Scotland becomes independent ... "... English, Welsh and Northern Irish students will study at Scottish universities for free..." This assumes that an independent Scotland would be a member of the EU, which is far from certain: http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/top-stories/impossible-for-scotland-to-join-eu-says-barroso-1-3308359 http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/top-stories/impossible...
- arethuza 13y agoIf Scotland leaves the UK then there isn't a UK anymore - so why would England, Wales and NI still be in the EU? :-) i.e. If a country splits into two parts surely you have two new countries.
- vrikis 13y ago> “So it is to some extent a similar case because it’s a new country and so I believe it’s going to be extremely difficult, if not impossible, a new member state coming out of one of our countries getting the agreement of the others.” See this is where everything just gets confusing... Scotland already IS a country by itself, as is England, NI, and Wales, so if Scotland were to become independent, it would in no way be a "new" country, would it? mhhhh, my head hurts.
- rahimnathwani 13y agoIs Scotland really a country, in the sense that we usually understand the word?
- vrikis 13y agoIt's difficult to answer, but I'd say yes. It doesn't in the sense that Scotland (nor does England, NI, Wales) have its own embassy in other countries, etc. All members of the United Kingdom are tightly integrated (e.g. Scotland doesn't issue money, but privately held banks-e.g. Bank of Scotland-do print money on behalf of central government) so it's really difficult to say but for the most part, it's more of its own country than now, I'd say.
- Morgawr 13y agoNot in Italy nor the Netherlands.
- JOfferijns 13y agoWell in the Netherlands it's 1800 euros a year for Dutch students, so that's not free but still very inexpensive. (note that it's significantly more expensive for foreign students though)
- zmk_ 13y agoCurrently you do not have to pay a dime to do a PhD in the Netherlands. In fact, you are almost surely an employee of the university (not a "student") and get a salary of 2300+ EUR (gross) a month. The 1.8k EUR applies to MA/MSc/BA. If part of the requirement to do a PhD is a to do a MSc degree and the programme is joint you might get a waver from the university for that 1.8k EUR. Also, most Dutch get that money back through the government stipend programme that "lends" people about 250EUR a month and gives them free travel across the whole country. At today's prices this package is worth 4000+ EUR. You only have to pay back that loan if you do not graduate in time (=+1 year of what is the duration of the programme), if you do graduate the loan is considered paid. Foreign students can get on this action by working one day a week, somewhere (incl. TA/RA/etc.). And then there are also various subsidies that students often qualify for. It is not unheard of to see a student in the Netherlands sporting 10k+ EUR income by working one day a week.
- Morgawr 13y ago>Foreign students can get on this action by working one day a week, somewhere (incl. TA/RA/etc.). This has changed, I used to get this but since 2014 my job (10 hours a week) does not qualify for it anymore. I think the new regulations allow only people working more than 16 hours per-week (not 100% sure on the exact number).
- surstroemming 13y agoIt's common in the Nordics: Denmark, Sweden, Finland and Norway all do it.
- xioxox 13y agoUniversity (degree level) cost != PhD cost In the UK, in the sciences, a PhD place comes with funding from a research council. An institute gets funding for places, which they award. For arts subjects (I believe), an application by the student for a particular project is made to a funding body. It is possible, however, to fund yourself if you cannot get funding. I know a very dedicated person who did this, funding with part time work. He's now a lecturer in a good university in the UK.
- Xophmeister 13y agoMy understanding is that you're never guaranteed RC funding and, also, the cost of doing so is that you have to do the research particular to that grant; so you've either got to hope for something related to your field, or go for something close enough to keep you interested. I've heard (sorry: no citations) that here in the UK, around 60% of PhDs are actually self-funded -- to pay the tuition fees, mostly -- and while I don't know the breakdown, that also includes research in the sciences. The upside of self-funding is that you're free to research what you want, within reason (i.e., it's actually worthwhile, the university agrees and you can find a supervisor, etc.)