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> Juniper says pulling out of a conference out of protest is “first world outrage.” #RSAC Ugh. Considering Juniper has been one of the router makers named in t

> Juniper says pulling out of a conference out of protest is “first world outrage.” #RSAC Ugh. Considering Juniper has been one of the router makers named in the leaks from NSA for having backdoors, comments like that just makes them seem more complicit. If I were them I probably wouldn't try to sound like I'm on NSA's side in moments like these. RSA itself seems to be even worse at this. Just look who they're allowing to crash the party: https://twitter.com/HackingDave/status/438434358311919616 https://twitter.com/HackingDave/status/438434358311919616

pigDisgusting 13y ago
The third world is utterly fucking doomed to an eternity of indentured servitude if people in the first world don't stand up against those who might implement a global electronic panopticon. The second world, meanwhile, is likely to collapse and fall prey to assimilation by the inevitable first world borg collective, if they're prevented from committing thermonuclear suicide first. If the first world doesn't save us from itself, then who will?
unethical_ban 13y ago
The guy came off as somewhat of a twat based on that. OK, people are dying in Africa. Does that make NSA spying ok? He ended a little better by making the point that we should be doing more than just talking, we should be building technical defenses against such things as NSA spying. It's a reasonable point, but I think he was just trying to be edgy in his talk.
- rodgerd 13y ago
  Given that any number of people who have died in Africa post World War II did so because of the "great game" between the US and Soviets, spook action is likely the direct result of those deaths he professes to lament.
- SimHacker 13y ago
  If the NSA put their resources towards educating and empowering third world children instead of perpetuating their oppression and spying on them, they could easily fund and equip the "One Supercomputer Per Child" project.

pigDisgusting 13y ago

The third world is utterly fucking doomed to an eternity of indentured servitude if people in the first world don't stand up against those who might implement a global electronic panopticon. The second world, meanwhile, is likely to collapse and fall prey to assimilation by the inevitable first world borg collective, if they're prevented from committing thermonuclear suicide first. If the first world doesn't save us from itself, then who will?

unethical_ban 13y ago

The guy came off as somewhat of a twat based on that. OK, people are dying in Africa. Does that make NSA spying ok? He ended a little better by making the point that we should be doing more than just talking, we should be building technical defenses against such things as NSA spying. It's a reasonable point, but I think he was just trying to be edgy in his talk.

rodgerd 13y ago
Given that any number of people who have died in Africa post World War II did so because of the "great game" between the US and Soviets, spook action is likely the direct result of those deaths he professes to lament.
SimHacker 13y ago
If the NSA put their resources towards educating and empowering third world children instead of perpetuating their oppression and spying on them, they could easily fund and equip the "One Supercomputer Per Child" project.