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Oh no! Now Google is going to put a backdoor in Tor and use it to make more money on GMail ads and sell my soul to the NSA! Just kidding, turns out Google is

by habosa 13y ago

Oh no! Now Google is going to put a backdoor in Tor and use it to make more money on GMail ads and sell my soul to the NSA! Just kidding, turns out Google is not always evil. Good that HN gets a reminder once in a while.

yeukhon 13y ago
In the past Navy sponsored Tor and NSF continues to sponsor Tor. And someone is going to say, "oh no." https://www.torproject.org/about/sponsors.html.en https://www.torproject.org/about/sponsors.html.en Truth is, Google doesn't care what open source project you want to make into GSoC, as long as someone likes your proposal, the project will get the $$ it needs :) Note Mercurial didn't make it to GSoC officially this year (probably have to go under PSF's name) - so even popular OSS doesn't automatically becomes a GSoC participant.
- yen223 13y ago
  Tor wasn't just sponsored by the Navy, it was "originally designed, implemented, and deployed as a third-generation onion routing project of the U.S. Naval Research Laboratory." https://www.torproject.org/about/overview.html.en https://www.torproject.org/about/overview.html.en
Zigurd 13y ago
That trivializes a difficult issue. When a company is recruited into a program like Prism, that doesn't necessarily happen through the CEO. Certainly, the company doesn't announce such a deal at an all-hands meeting, and omits it from their financial and regulatory filings. The vast majority of a company's employees might be legitimately offended at the suggestion they are collaborating in such a program. And yet, such a company can lose their customers and reputation, and may deserve that fate. It's a form of corruption. It's a hazard for customers. Those companies listed as participating in Prism have to bear the responsibility, whether or not most of the employees and even most of the company leadership can correctly claim to be victims.

by habosa 13y ago

yeukhon 13y ago

In the past Navy sponsored Tor and NSF continues to sponsor Tor. And someone is going to say, "oh no." https://www.torproject.org/about/sponsors.html.en https://www.torproject.org/about/sponsors.html.en Truth is, Google doesn't care what open source project you want to make into GSoC, as long as someone likes your proposal, the project will get the $$ it needs :) Note Mercurial didn't make it to GSoC officially this year (probably have to go under PSF's name) - so even popular OSS doesn't automatically becomes a GSoC participant.

yen223 13y ago
Tor wasn't just sponsored by the Navy, it was "originally designed, implemented, and deployed as a third-generation onion routing project of the U.S. Naval Research Laboratory." https://www.torproject.org/about/overview.html.en https://www.torproject.org/about/overview.html.en

Zigurd 13y ago

That trivializes a difficult issue. When a company is recruited into a program like Prism, that doesn't necessarily happen through the CEO. Certainly, the company doesn't announce such a deal at an all-hands meeting, and omits it from their financial and regulatory filings. The vast majority of a company's employees might be legitimately offended at the suggestion they are collaborating in such a program. And yet, such a company can lose their customers and reputation, and may deserve that fate. It's a form of corruption. It's a hazard for customers. Those companies listed as participating in Prism have to bear the responsibility, whether or not most of the employees and even most of the company leadership can correctly claim to be victims.