> This is obviously true. No it isn't because the leaks don't come from the credit card system; they come from vendors and it's not possible to make every vend

> This is obviously true. No it isn't because the leaks don't come from the credit card system; they come from vendors and it's not possible to make every vendor secure. PCI is an industry joke, everyone knows it; Target wasn't even compliant. > but I trust Amex a whole hell of a lot more than I trust Coinbase Yes, but you're ignoring the best option, trust no one, keep your own coins. The whole point of a peer to peer system is that you don't have to rely on a third party to keep your stuff. > (and to be clear, that's the problem bitcoin has to solve, getting trust from normals). I realize there will be disagreement about such assessments. I do disagree because normal's simply aren't necessary for bitcoin's success; it's already useful enough and used enough to be considered successful as a means of international payment and transfer of wealth. As a commodity, normals will be investing in it without even knowing it as soon as the ETF's hit Wall Street, so their explicit trust simply isn't required.