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Call me non typically British but it's pretty obvious why they didn't ask. Even if 100% of people they asked were fine with it (Scott seems to imply he is) prob

Call me non typically British but it's pretty obvious why they didn't ask. Even if 100% of people they asked were fine with it (Scott seems to imply he is) probably less than 10% would bother to respond, that then knackers their startup instantly. "Better to do something now and apologise later than ask for permission and not get it" as I think a saying goes. Better attribution would have been good, and possibly reaching out to original creators asking them to opt out if they'd rather not be involved. Offering something in return (the embedded player for relevant articles) could have helped grease the wheels. Ultimately, if they get bug they may not need massive support from content creators like Scott but they do need not to be on the wrong side of them.

reidrac 13y ago
That's why creative commons licenses are useful. If the content they want to use is under CC, they don't need to ask because the terms are perfectly clear. There's also fair use, but IANAL and I think that they should definitely ask (because of the "all right reserved" part).
- chilldream 13y ago
  Copying entire works (even a blog post counts) is not fair use.
  - reidrac 13y ago
    I didn't say that; but I'm still not a lawyer.
  - Amezarak 13y ago
    There have been several cases where courts ruled that copying an entire work was fair use. Substantiality is only one of the considerations. For example, in Kelly v. Arriba Soft Corporation, the court ruled that even though they had copied the entire work, it was OK because that's how much they needed to copy for their intended (otherwise legitimate, commercial, and transformative) use.
btreesOfSpring 13y ago
"It's easier to ask forgiveness than it is to get permission." Grace Hopper, as quoted in the U.S. Navy's Chips Ahoy magazine (July 1986). [•] https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Grace_Hopper https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Grace_Hopper

reidrac 13y ago

That's why creative commons licenses are useful. If the content they want to use is under CC, they don't need to ask because the terms are perfectly clear. There's also fair use, but IANAL and I think that they should definitely ask (because of the "all right reserved" part).

chilldream 13y ago
Copying entire works (even a blog post counts) is not fair use.
- reidrac 13y ago
  I didn't say that; but I'm still not a lawyer.
- Amezarak 13y ago
  There have been several cases where courts ruled that copying an entire work was fair use. Substantiality is only one of the considerations. For example, in Kelly v. Arriba Soft Corporation, the court ruled that even though they had copied the entire work, it was OK because that's how much they needed to copy for their intended (otherwise legitimate, commercial, and transformative) use.

btreesOfSpring 13y ago

"It's easier to ask forgiveness than it is to get permission." Grace Hopper, as quoted in the U.S. Navy's Chips Ahoy magazine (July 1986). [•] https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Grace_Hopper https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Grace_Hopper