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Tesla S competes with E Class MB, latter costs ~55-65k. 100k S Class is much better car than Tesla S.

by alexeisadeski3 13y ago

keithwarren 13y ago
I disagree on the S class. It is bigger but I find nothing else about it 'better' and certainly not 'much better'
- alexeisadeski3 13y ago
  De gustibus non est disputandum No doubt there are components of the Tesla S which are nicer than the S Class. But taken holistically, they are not in the same class. Wheelbase, length, interior volume, rear legroom & headroom, overall refinement are all quite different between the Tesla S and M-B S. Though they do weigh about the same... But as I said, de gustibus non est disputandum.
  - ericd 13y ago
    What about torque/throttle response? I really like the idea of a car that seats a good sized family comfortably but can drag race with an M5. I've driven and loved some very high performance cars, the Tesla is incomparable because of that ridiculous immediacy. Not having to compromise on practicality to get it puts it in a class of its own, IMO.
whatusername 13y ago
Assuming Elon Musk comes through with his statement about not inflating prices for a specific country -- Tesla might start killing it in Australia. (S Class starts at $215,000. E Class 4 door starts at $79K. Going up to 130 (or 250 for the AMG))
cloudwalking 13y ago
Tesla Model S costs $63k after tax rebate, and you'll save $3k per year on gas and oil.
- alexeisadeski3 13y ago
  MSRP is $106k with normal options (almost exactly the same as S Class), with a $7,500 rebate that comes out to $98k.
  - altyus 13y ago
    That's for the performance version. Check your facts. http://bit.ly/Mtgrlq http://bit.ly/Mtgrlq
    - alexeisadeski3 13y ago
      It is not.
- aestra 13y ago
  How much are you really spending on gas? I paid $11,000 for my now 3 year old car when it was 2 years old. I didn't finance it so I didn't pay interest. I average about 35 mpg and drive about 12,000 miles a year. If gas was $4 a gallon that is about $1,412 a year. If I drove 15,000 miles a year that is $1,700 in gas. My owner's manual* says to change the oil once every 10,000 miles or once a year whichever is first. The dealership does that for me for free. I'd have to drive my car for 30 years to make up the price difference between the cars ($52,000) If you want to get a luxury car, then get a luxury car, but don't act like you're doing it to save money. *it is no longer true you have to change your oil every 3,000 miles for most cars. http://autos.yahoo.com/news/how-do-you-really-know-when-to-change-oil-in-your-car-.html http://autos.yahoo.com/news/how-do-you-really-know-when-to-c... http://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/4209/is-it-necessary-to-change-motor-oil-every-5-000km-3-000-miles http://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/4209/is-it-neces... http://www.edmunds.com/car-care/stop-changing-your-oil.html http://www.edmunds.com/car-care/stop-changing-your-oil.html http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/11/your-money/11shortcuts.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0 http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/11/your-money/11shortcuts.htm...
  - josh-wrale 13y ago
    I call straw man argument. Take everything "electric drivetrain" out of a Tesla and it's still far beyond $11k echelon. Also, buying a car without financing it is surely not the norm, especially for cars in the class of a non-electric Tesla (for the sake of discussion) -- though I could be wrong, as it is a "luxury" vehicle, after all. I'm interested in seeing your argument re-framed against the Nissan Leaf, which in this case is more of an orange than a Tesla, to your Aveo (?).

Tesla S competes with E Class MB, latter costs ~55-65k. 100k S Class is much better car than Tesla S.

keithwarren 13y ago

I disagree on the S class. It is bigger but I find nothing else about it 'better' and certainly not 'much better'

alexeisadeski3 13y ago
De gustibus non est disputandum No doubt there are components of the Tesla S which are nicer than the S Class. But taken holistically, they are not in the same class. Wheelbase, length, interior volume, rear legroom & headroom, overall refinement are all quite different between the Tesla S and M-B S. Though they do weigh about the same... But as I said, de gustibus non est disputandum.
- ericd 13y ago
  What about torque/throttle response? I really like the idea of a car that seats a good sized family comfortably but can drag race with an M5. I've driven and loved some very high performance cars, the Tesla is incomparable because of that ridiculous immediacy. Not having to compromise on practicality to get it puts it in a class of its own, IMO.

whatusername 13y ago

Assuming Elon Musk comes through with his statement about not inflating prices for a specific country -- Tesla might start killing it in Australia. (S Class starts at $215,000. E Class 4 door starts at $79K. Going up to 130 (or 250 for the AMG))

cloudwalking 13y ago

Tesla Model S costs $63k after tax rebate, and you'll save $3k per year on gas and oil.

alexeisadeski3 13y ago
MSRP is $106k with normal options (almost exactly the same as S Class), with a $7,500 rebate that comes out to $98k.
- altyus 13y ago
  That's for the performance version. Check your facts. http://bit.ly/Mtgrlq http://bit.ly/Mtgrlq
  - alexeisadeski3 13y ago
    It is not.
aestra 13y ago
How much are you really spending on gas? I paid $11,000 for my now 3 year old car when it was 2 years old. I didn't finance it so I didn't pay interest. I average about 35 mpg and drive about 12,000 miles a year. If gas was $4 a gallon that is about $1,412 a year. If I drove 15,000 miles a year that is $1,700 in gas. My owner's manual* says to change the oil once every 10,000 miles or once a year whichever is first. The dealership does that for me for free. I'd have to drive my car for 30 years to make up the price difference between the cars ($52,000) If you want to get a luxury car, then get a luxury car, but don't act like you're doing it to save money. *it is no longer true you have to change your oil every 3,000 miles for most cars. http://autos.yahoo.com/news/how-do-you-really-know-when-to-change-oil-in-your-car-.html http://autos.yahoo.com/news/how-do-you-really-know-when-to-c... http://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/4209/is-it-necessary-to-change-motor-oil-every-5-000km-3-000-miles http://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/4209/is-it-neces... http://www.edmunds.com/car-care/stop-changing-your-oil.html http://www.edmunds.com/car-care/stop-changing-your-oil.html http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/11/your-money/11shortcuts.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0 http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/11/your-money/11shortcuts.htm...
- josh-wrale 13y ago
  I call straw man argument. Take everything "electric drivetrain" out of a Tesla and it's still far beyond $11k echelon. Also, buying a car without financing it is surely not the norm, especially for cars in the class of a non-electric Tesla (for the sake of discussion) -- though I could be wrong, as it is a "luxury" vehicle, after all. I'm interested in seeing your argument re-framed against the Nissan Leaf, which in this case is more of an orange than a Tesla, to your Aveo (?).