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-I liked this quote: "“If everybody in the industry would say, ‘Yes, this is the way to go,’ then we are too late.” -I think it's possible. It might also be vi

-I liked this quote: "“If everybody in the industry would say, ‘Yes, this is the way to go,’ then we are too late.” -I think it's possible. It might also be viable to have a mix of a few manned ships (cargo or otherwise) leading a group of drone ships. -We, as humans, need to get used to the fact that machines are going to become better (not to mention cheaper) than us at almost every task we now classify as human only. -And this makes me envision a time in the future where Somali pirates use computers instead of guns to take over ships.

njharman 13y ago
> Somali pirates use computers instead of guns to take over ships My first thought, although probably not actual Somali's.
- matznerd 13y ago
  It's possible that they will be vulnerable remotely, but there is also the possibility to create interference or jam the signal with proximity to the ship. Maybe they will work in tandem with an online team... I imagine the ships going through dangerous territory would probably have some sort of defense, if not munitions, then sound, laser, or other type. It's also not crazy to imagine that the ships would have flying drones on them for reconnaissance and other uses.
  - Shivetya 13y ago
    I am quite sure the options the military is exploring and now using to keep that from happening to their drones would be applied here. Ships could be instructed to accept orders under very strict rules, perhaps even ignoring orders while operating in certain regions. Given full ability to understand their surroundings they could avoid collisions with anything that would seriously damage their hulls and ignore most smaller vessels that are acting in obvious means to try an intercept them. Plus with no crew on board you do not need to provide easy access to anything, just seal it. I am more interested in driver less big rigs and trains. I figure that planes and ships are more heavily protected by union organizations.
    - matznerd 13y ago
      I'm sure the military is working on that, and I imagine it is a lot harder to interfere with a drone flying thousands of feet into the sky, than to interfere with a ship that you could get very close to. Yet, it looks like Iran was able to use some sort of GPS Spoofing to take down a US drone last year [ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93U.S._RQ-170_incident https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93U.S._RQ-170_incid... ] I agree with you and forecast that big rigs and trains will eventually be automated as well. Energy companies are already using autonomous dump trucks in Canada. [ http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/autonomous-dump-trucks-are-coming-to-canadas-oil-sands http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/autonomous-dump-trucks-are-... ]
    - chaosphere2112 13y ago
      > I am more interested in driver less big rigs and trains. I figure that planes and ships are more heavily protected by union organizations. Well, there's always the teamsters[1] to consider. [1]:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Brotherhood_of_Teamsters http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Brotherhood_of_Te...
- rasz_pl 13y ago
  Gibson, lets hack it and sink some oil tankers.
- BenoitP 13y ago
  > not actual Somali's Maybe Nigerian's?
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njharman 13y ago

> Somali pirates use computers instead of guns to take over ships My first thought, although probably not actual Somali's.

matznerd 13y ago
It's possible that they will be vulnerable remotely, but there is also the possibility to create interference or jam the signal with proximity to the ship. Maybe they will work in tandem with an online team... I imagine the ships going through dangerous territory would probably have some sort of defense, if not munitions, then sound, laser, or other type. It's also not crazy to imagine that the ships would have flying drones on them for reconnaissance and other uses.
- Shivetya 13y ago
  I am quite sure the options the military is exploring and now using to keep that from happening to their drones would be applied here. Ships could be instructed to accept orders under very strict rules, perhaps even ignoring orders while operating in certain regions. Given full ability to understand their surroundings they could avoid collisions with anything that would seriously damage their hulls and ignore most smaller vessels that are acting in obvious means to try an intercept them. Plus with no crew on board you do not need to provide easy access to anything, just seal it. I am more interested in driver less big rigs and trains. I figure that planes and ships are more heavily protected by union organizations.
  - matznerd 13y ago
    I'm sure the military is working on that, and I imagine it is a lot harder to interfere with a drone flying thousands of feet into the sky, than to interfere with a ship that you could get very close to. Yet, it looks like Iran was able to use some sort of GPS Spoofing to take down a US drone last year [ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93U.S._RQ-170_incident https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93U.S._RQ-170_incid... ] I agree with you and forecast that big rigs and trains will eventually be automated as well. Energy companies are already using autonomous dump trucks in Canada. [ http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/autonomous-dump-trucks-are-coming-to-canadas-oil-sands http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/autonomous-dump-trucks-are-... ]
  - chaosphere2112 13y ago
    > I am more interested in driver less big rigs and trains. I figure that planes and ships are more heavily protected by union organizations. Well, there's always the teamsters[1] to consider. [1]:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Brotherhood_of_Teamsters http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Brotherhood_of_Te...
rasz_pl 13y ago
Gibson, lets hack it and sink some oil tankers.
BenoitP 13y ago
> not actual Somali's Maybe Nigerian's?

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