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This. I was quite disappointed by http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2013/12/why-i-want-bitcoin-to-die-in-a.html http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-

This. I was quite disappointed by http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2013/12/why-i-want-bitcoin-to-die-in-a.html http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2013/12/why-i-wa... You don't like bitcoin and wish it would go away. Ok, fair enough. ...but that's not a conversation. That's the end of a conversation. Of all people I would have expected Stross (who've I've met in person and found to be quite awesome) would take the 'here's how it could be better, lets talk about it' stance, rather than 'this thing is bad and should just go away forever'. You know, fair enough. You have a firm opinion and you're sticking to it. I respect that; but it's a boring conversation when you're not even willing to listen to the other side and talk about it.

mercurial 13y ago
> You know, fair enough. You have a firm opinion and you're sticking to it. I respect that; but it's a boring conversation when you're not even willing to listen to the other side and talk about it. It's his blog, it's perfectly appropriate for him to rant about things. Sometimes, you're not really interested in conversation.
rosser 13y ago
...but that's not a conversation. That's the end of a conversation. Which is different from everyone else on the subject of BTC ... how, again? Everyone seems to have their mind made up about Bitcoin, and to think that anyone whose opinion differs from their own is shortsighted, or irrationally optimistic, or idiotically conservative, or, or, or. Practically no-one seems willing to have an actual dialogue about the subject, and instead approaches these threads from a perspective of defending their established — entrenched — position. Why should Charlie be any different?
- wpietri 13y ago
  Indeed, I think his la-la-la-I-can't-hear-you position is a reaction to the incredible wave of irrational exuberance around BitCoin. That's certainly how I feel about it. I'm sure there are people capable having a rational, nuanced discussion about it. But 99.7% of what I see online is glibertarians, gold bugs, utopians, tulip bulb salesmen, tinfoil-hat survivalists, people dreaming of the singularity with one hand in their pants, sociopaths, wannabe-drug lords, day-trader driftwood, sexist creeps [1], and people who make Richard Stallman look reasonable and well-groomed. I'm hoping that this crash is severe enough to get us to the Trough of Disillusionment [2], so we can find out if there's a pony in there somewhere [3]. But honestly, I doubt it. [1] http://www.ariannasimpson.com/this-is-what-its-like-to-be-a-woman-at-a-bitcoin-meetup/ http://www.ariannasimpson.com/this-is-what-its-like-to-be-a-... [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hype_cycle http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hype_cycle [3] http://judymintz.com/2012/12/04/theres-got-to-be-a-pony-somewhere/ http://judymintz.com/2012/12/04/theres-got-to-be-a-pony-some...

mercurial 13y ago

> You know, fair enough. You have a firm opinion and you're sticking to it. I respect that; but it's a boring conversation when you're not even willing to listen to the other side and talk about it. It's his blog, it's perfectly appropriate for him to rant about things. Sometimes, you're not really interested in conversation.

rosser 13y ago

...but that's not a conversation. That's the end of a conversation. Which is different from everyone else on the subject of BTC ... how, again? Everyone seems to have their mind made up about Bitcoin, and to think that anyone whose opinion differs from their own is shortsighted, or irrationally optimistic, or idiotically conservative, or, or, or. Practically no-one seems willing to have an actual dialogue about the subject, and instead approaches these threads from a perspective of defending their established — entrenched — position. Why should Charlie be any different?

wpietri 13y ago
Indeed, I think his la-la-la-I-can't-hear-you position is a reaction to the incredible wave of irrational exuberance around BitCoin. That's certainly how I feel about it. I'm sure there are people capable having a rational, nuanced discussion about it. But 99.7% of what I see online is glibertarians, gold bugs, utopians, tulip bulb salesmen, tinfoil-hat survivalists, people dreaming of the singularity with one hand in their pants, sociopaths, wannabe-drug lords, day-trader driftwood, sexist creeps [1], and people who make Richard Stallman look reasonable and well-groomed. I'm hoping that this crash is severe enough to get us to the Trough of Disillusionment [2], so we can find out if there's a pony in there somewhere [3]. But honestly, I doubt it. [1] http://www.ariannasimpson.com/this-is-what-its-like-to-be-a-woman-at-a-bitcoin-meetup/ http://www.ariannasimpson.com/this-is-what-its-like-to-be-a-... [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hype_cycle http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hype_cycle [3] http://judymintz.com/2012/12/04/theres-got-to-be-a-pony-somewhere/ http://judymintz.com/2012/12/04/theres-got-to-be-a-pony-some...