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10 Realtime Web Technology Predictions for 2014

15 points by leggetter 13y ago

_puk 13y ago
So presumably every site I visit in 2014 will request my location? Didn't hang around long enough to read it after that..
- leggetter 13y ago
  No. That would be the geolocation API https://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/WebAPI/Using_geolocation https://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/WebAPI/Using_geolocati... You can of course use that in conjunction with realtime web technologies: For example, see: http://leggetter.github.io/100-lines-or-less-js/realtime-collaborative-mapping/ http://leggetter.github.io/100-lines-or-less-js/realtime-col... Actually, that one doesn't use the geolocation API. It's just a realtime mapping example. This one uses the geolocation API: https://github.com/leggetter/realtime-visitor-tracker https://github.com/leggetter/realtime-visitor-tracker It's actually a really good use case, but not the only one.
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  - ksrm 13y ago
    I believe he is referring to the fact that your website requests one's location for no apparent reason.
    - leggetter 13y ago
      Ah, I understand now. See point 2 here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7297658 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7297658
arocks 13y ago
"Realtime being fundamentally integrated with an app or website" comes with the assumption that the visitor is always connected. This might not always be true especially for the mobile user. Users would appreciate a functional site that works well despite the intermittent connectivity than one that shows a spinning loader.
wcummings 13y ago
Title should be "How Many Times Can I Say 'Realtime' in One Post"
- josefresco 13y ago
  Branding at its finest ... or worst. I think it's a little overboard, but hey ...don't knock the guy for trying to put his brand in your mind.
cellover 13y ago
Is preventing middle-click to open in new tab a trend for 2014? If yes, I don't want to live on this internet anymore.
- cellover 13y ago
  Seems like the middle-click issue is a bug known to the owner of the site: http://www.leggetter.co.uk/2014/02/24/10-realtime-web-technology-predictions-for-2014.html#comment-1259700530 http://www.leggetter.co.uk/2014/02/24/10-realtime-web-techno...
  - leggetter 13y ago
    Yeah, thanks. Hopefully that's fixed now.
Hopka 13y ago
1) Why the clickbait title? 2) What do you want my Geolocation for? 3) Why can't I middle click or ctrl+click any links in the article?
- leggetter 13y ago
  1. I guess I could've removed the "10" bit? 2. I'm running some realtime benchmarks on a number of hosted service providers. If I can get the geolocation it let's me add that to the benchmark results. Granted, a banner that provides info on that would be better than the bog-standard browser prompt. 3. Yeah, sorry about that. I'm interested to see where I'm sending traffic to so am capturing outbound clicks. It seems there's a bug on Chromium on Linux where the `event.metaKey` isn't set to `true` when it should be. See https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=95874 https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=95874

15 points by leggetter 13y ago

_puk 13y ago

So presumably every site I visit in 2014 will request my location? Didn't hang around long enough to read it after that..

leggetter 13y ago
No. That would be the geolocation API https://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/WebAPI/Using_geolocation https://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/WebAPI/Using_geolocati... You can of course use that in conjunction with realtime web technologies: For example, see: http://leggetter.github.io/100-lines-or-less-js/realtime-collaborative-mapping/ http://leggetter.github.io/100-lines-or-less-js/realtime-col... Actually, that one doesn't use the geolocation API. It's just a realtime mapping example. This one uses the geolocation API: https://github.com/leggetter/realtime-visitor-tracker https://github.com/leggetter/realtime-visitor-tracker It's actually a really good use case, but not the only one.
- deleted 13y ago
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- ksrm 13y ago
  I believe he is referring to the fact that your website requests one's location for no apparent reason.
  - leggetter 13y ago
    Ah, I understand now. See point 2 here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7297658 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7297658

arocks 13y ago

"Realtime being fundamentally integrated with an app or website" comes with the assumption that the visitor is always connected. This might not always be true especially for the mobile user. Users would appreciate a functional site that works well despite the intermittent connectivity than one that shows a spinning loader.

wcummings 13y ago

Title should be "How Many Times Can I Say 'Realtime' in One Post"

josefresco 13y ago
Branding at its finest ... or worst. I think it's a little overboard, but hey ...don't knock the guy for trying to put his brand in your mind.

cellover 13y ago

Is preventing middle-click to open in new tab a trend for 2014? If yes, I don't want to live on this internet anymore.

cellover 13y ago
Seems like the middle-click issue is a bug known to the owner of the site: http://www.leggetter.co.uk/2014/02/24/10-realtime-web-technology-predictions-for-2014.html#comment-1259700530 http://www.leggetter.co.uk/2014/02/24/10-realtime-web-techno...
- leggetter 13y ago
  Yeah, thanks. Hopefully that's fixed now.

Hopka 13y ago

1) Why the clickbait title? 2) What do you want my Geolocation for? 3) Why can't I middle click or ctrl+click any links in the article?

leggetter 13y ago
1. I guess I could've removed the "10" bit? 2. I'm running some realtime benchmarks on a number of hosted service providers. If I can get the geolocation it let's me add that to the benchmark results. Granted, a banner that provides info on that would be better than the bog-standard browser prompt. 3. Yeah, sorry about that. I'm interested to see where I'm sending traffic to so am capturing outbound clicks. It seems there's a bug on Chromium on Linux where the `event.metaKey` isn't set to `true` when it should be. See https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=95874 https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=95874