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Tom, Ultimately the power and usability of applications win. Why don't you give it a try. promise you it will be worth your time. The underpinning of Tonido is

Tom, Ultimately the power and usability of applications win. Why don't you give it a try. promise you it will be worth your time. The underpinning of Tonido is control of data. Even we have plans to offer Tonido on your own VPS.We just provide an alternative to cloud . Thats it. we don't hate or fear cloud services

TomOfTTB 17y ago
But why? My issue isn't that your solution looks bad it's that it looks no better than cloud solutions and I don't want to manage my own server unless there is an advantage. The only advantage I can see is "we're not in the cloud" and that means nothing to me. I'm not against you I just don't see the benefits (and since you're on HN this might be the perfect place for you to lay them out)
- codemechanic 17y ago
  For starters, Tonido workspace is a very powerful PIM and collaborative app that employs unique horizontal information schema. Honestly, we believe it is better or equal to the best collob apps available out there both in cloud and desktop. It will also allow you to sync your files across computers: work or home. Tonido webshare allows you to share files easily from your computer. You don't need to pay any subscription costs for a cloud storage. Yes there are other free apps available. But not in a one single package as Tonido. If you have lot of high resolution photos, Tonido photos is a perfect fit. It uses p2p overlay to transfer photos. you don't need to wait for lengthy uploads. Tonido jukebox allows you to listen to your music collection from any device with a browser. So you can have a single music server that streams music to multiple devices. Tonido Torrent is a web based bit torrent client - If you want to start and stop torrents remotely - good option. Tonido thots is a simple journal to capture your thoughts - like your personal wordpress. TonidoPlug runs on 1/10 of your desktop or laptop power. That saves electricity costs. There are number of other apps are also in pipeline: screenshare, openid, backup-sync, backpack clone. In short, it really offers benefits other than not being cloud. It is quite possible one might not need any of these apps or the features that Tonido provides.It is not perfect. There are rough edges. We will correct it as we iterate. As we release more apps and iterate the best ones we have, we think the users will see the obvious benefits in using Tonido.

TomOfTTB 17y ago

But why? My issue isn't that your solution looks bad it's that it looks no better than cloud solutions and I don't want to manage my own server unless there is an advantage. The only advantage I can see is "we're not in the cloud" and that means nothing to me. I'm not against you I just don't see the benefits (and since you're on HN this might be the perfect place for you to lay them out)

codemechanic 17y ago
For starters, Tonido workspace is a very powerful PIM and collaborative app that employs unique horizontal information schema. Honestly, we believe it is better or equal to the best collob apps available out there both in cloud and desktop. It will also allow you to sync your files across computers: work or home. Tonido webshare allows you to share files easily from your computer. You don't need to pay any subscription costs for a cloud storage. Yes there are other free apps available. But not in a one single package as Tonido. If you have lot of high resolution photos, Tonido photos is a perfect fit. It uses p2p overlay to transfer photos. you don't need to wait for lengthy uploads. Tonido jukebox allows you to listen to your music collection from any device with a browser. So you can have a single music server that streams music to multiple devices. Tonido Torrent is a web based bit torrent client - If you want to start and stop torrents remotely - good option. Tonido thots is a simple journal to capture your thoughts - like your personal wordpress. TonidoPlug runs on 1/10 of your desktop or laptop power. That saves electricity costs. There are number of other apps are also in pipeline: screenshare, openid, backup-sync, backpack clone. In short, it really offers benefits other than not being cloud. It is quite possible one might not need any of these apps or the features that Tonido provides.It is not perfect. There are rough edges. We will correct it as we iterate. As we release more apps and iterate the best ones we have, we think the users will see the obvious benefits in using Tonido.