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> seven acres of land donated by Carmen Guidi Yeah, good luck with that in major cities. What if we took all the tiny houses and put them all in a shared buil

by krallja 13y ago

> seven acres of land donated by Carmen Guidi Yeah, good luck with that in major cities. What if we took all the tiny houses and put them all in a shared building, with shared infrastructure and a tinier combined footprint? We could call it... an apartment building.

protomyth 13y ago
I have wondered if you could build a building with plugable apartment modules that could be moved to other building when you wanted to move. Shipping crate apartments with standard utility hookups.
- dasmoth 13y ago
  This gets proposed from time to time (was Buckminster Fuller's Dynaxion Home the first?), but I can never see how you'd move them without crating up all your possessions. And isn't that the worst aspect of moving home in a traditional manner...?
  - saraid216 13y ago
    If the home is deliberately designed for this possibility, it might be easier than that. For instance, perhaps a grid of plugs to bolt your furniture into so that you only have to crate up looser items like books and vases? And you might be able to hide those under floorboard panels.
  - protomyth 13y ago
    I've had a couple of relatives move mobile homes[1] and mostly it can down to boxing the dishes, taking the knick knacks off the wall, and tying the furniture together[2]. I'm more interested in the mass production aspect. 1) mostly eastern ND 2) lay big screen tv flat on bed
- iamwithnail 13y ago
  http://www.mac-containers.co.uk/temporary-container-housing.htm?gclid=CPH1_bOS57wCFSEHwwodzxAAlw http://www.mac-containers.co.uk/temporary-container-housing....
Crito 13y ago
Without careful management, you stand a chance of creating a "Hotel Carter"-esque situation where it is too easy for residents to adversely effect the lives of other residents. Some minimal amount of separation (even if it is only a few feet between each unit) and keeping things out in the air to aid in policing should be well-worth it. The issue of land wouldn't be so bad if we had decent transportation around our cities. It shouldn't be necessary to own a car if you don't live downtown somewhere, although unfortunately it typically is.
- willyt 13y ago
  You need at least 4 story tenements to make rail based public transport viable. You can go a bit less dense with buses but not much. Refer to 'Cities for a Small Planet'. Ricky Burdet at the LSE has done quite a bit of research into this.
benched 13y ago
I love how, despite the lessons of the inner-city projects, there's still this automatic urge to try to reduce the quality of life of the imaginary occupants as much as possible, right out of the gate.
- twic 13y ago
  Some of the most desirable and expensive homes in the world are in apartment blocks (eg the infamous One Hyde Park here in London). And on the other hand, some of the most despised and squalid homes in the world are detatched units (eg trailer parks). It's not the layout of a home that governs the quality of life of its occupants. It's how well built it it, how well maintained it is, how well connected to work, infrastructure, amenities, and the larger community it is, how mixed its occupants are in income and occupation, how well cared for by police, fire, and health services it is, dozens of factors. But not whether it shares a wall with its neighbouring homes.
  - _delirium 13y ago
    Large parts of Manhattan are another example. Small apartments, in huge apartment blocks producing deep urban canyons that let little light reach the windows... and yet some of the most expensive real estate in the country.
joeframbach 13y ago
You should read more. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pruitt%E2%80%93Igoe http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pruitt%E2%80%93Igoe
- krallja 13y ago
  You should read more. http://www.upenn.edu/pennpress/book/14435.html http://www.upenn.edu/pennpress/book/14435.html
noonespecial 13y ago
No, I'm afraid they'd call it... a ghetto. Something special does happen when its "your" house. Is it special enough to avoid ghetto-ization? Its worth a try IMHO.

by krallja 13y ago

protomyth 13y ago

I have wondered if you could build a building with plugable apartment modules that could be moved to other building when you wanted to move. Shipping crate apartments with standard utility hookups.

dasmoth 13y ago
This gets proposed from time to time (was Buckminster Fuller's Dynaxion Home the first?), but I can never see how you'd move them without crating up all your possessions. And isn't that the worst aspect of moving home in a traditional manner...?
- saraid216 13y ago
  If the home is deliberately designed for this possibility, it might be easier than that. For instance, perhaps a grid of plugs to bolt your furniture into so that you only have to crate up looser items like books and vases? And you might be able to hide those under floorboard panels.
- protomyth 13y ago
  I've had a couple of relatives move mobile homes[1] and mostly it can down to boxing the dishes, taking the knick knacks off the wall, and tying the furniture together[2]. I'm more interested in the mass production aspect. 1) mostly eastern ND 2) lay big screen tv flat on bed
iamwithnail 13y ago
http://www.mac-containers.co.uk/temporary-container-housing.htm?gclid=CPH1_bOS57wCFSEHwwodzxAAlw http://www.mac-containers.co.uk/temporary-container-housing....

Crito 13y ago

Without careful management, you stand a chance of creating a "Hotel Carter"-esque situation where it is too easy for residents to adversely effect the lives of other residents. Some minimal amount of separation (even if it is only a few feet between each unit) and keeping things out in the air to aid in policing should be well-worth it. The issue of land wouldn't be so bad if we had decent transportation around our cities. It shouldn't be necessary to own a car if you don't live downtown somewhere, although unfortunately it typically is.

willyt 13y ago
You need at least 4 story tenements to make rail based public transport viable. You can go a bit less dense with buses but not much. Refer to 'Cities for a Small Planet'. Ricky Burdet at the LSE has done quite a bit of research into this.

benched 13y ago

I love how, despite the lessons of the inner-city projects, there's still this automatic urge to try to reduce the quality of life of the imaginary occupants as much as possible, right out of the gate.

twic 13y ago
Some of the most desirable and expensive homes in the world are in apartment blocks (eg the infamous One Hyde Park here in London). And on the other hand, some of the most despised and squalid homes in the world are detatched units (eg trailer parks). It's not the layout of a home that governs the quality of life of its occupants. It's how well built it it, how well maintained it is, how well connected to work, infrastructure, amenities, and the larger community it is, how mixed its occupants are in income and occupation, how well cared for by police, fire, and health services it is, dozens of factors. But not whether it shares a wall with its neighbouring homes.
- _delirium 13y ago
  Large parts of Manhattan are another example. Small apartments, in huge apartment blocks producing deep urban canyons that let little light reach the windows... and yet some of the most expensive real estate in the country.

joeframbach 13y ago

You should read more. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pruitt%E2%80%93Igoe http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pruitt%E2%80%93Igoe

krallja 13y ago
You should read more. http://www.upenn.edu/pennpress/book/14435.html http://www.upenn.edu/pennpress/book/14435.html

noonespecial 13y ago

No, I'm afraid they'd call it... a ghetto. Something special does happen when its "your" house. Is it special enough to avoid ghetto-ization? Its worth a try IMHO.