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Screw the Cloud Tonido Wants to Put Your Apps on Your Computer

7 points by codemechanic 17y ago

TomOfTTB 17y ago
I don't know. I'm not really a cloud advocate but I do like the idea of having access to my data everywhere and not having to worry about my own personal server going down. That's a killer feature for me. So if you want to talk me into a home server and desktop apps you have to be able to do something impressive that a cloud soution can't. I don't see that here. Moreover, the tone of the "pro" part of this piece really turned me off. I won't blame the company because I don't know who chose the tone but to me this was fear mongering to sell a product (and for the record the one seems to be emulating their website). "All these evil big companies shouldn't have control of your data so you should fear them and run your own server" Well, I don't fear the power of one company's cloud. If they abuse me I'll just move to another. Beyond that I'm an IT manager so I know servers occasionally go down and at home I don't want to deal with that. Again, I'm open to desktop apps and local servers. But they have to use the power a local soultion provides to impress me. This doesn't seem to do anything a cloud solution couldn't and that makes it a no-go for me.
codemechanic 17y ago
Tom, Ultimately the power and usability of applications win. Why don't you give it a try. promise you it will be worth your time. The underpinning of Tonido is control of data. Even we have plans to offer Tonido on your own VPS.We just provide an alternative to cloud . Thats it. we don't hate or fear cloud services
- TomOfTTB 17y ago
  But why? My issue isn't that your solution looks bad it's that it looks no better than cloud solutions and I don't want to manage my own server unless there is an advantage. The only advantage I can see is "we're not in the cloud" and that means nothing to me. I'm not against you I just don't see the benefits (and since you're on HN this might be the perfect place for you to lay them out)
  - codemechanic 17y ago
    For starters, Tonido workspace is a very powerful PIM and collaborative app that employs unique horizontal information schema. Honestly, we believe it is better or equal to the best collob apps available out there both in cloud and desktop. It will also allow you to sync your files across computers: work or home. Tonido webshare allows you to share files easily from your computer. You don't need to pay any subscription costs for a cloud storage. Yes there are other free apps available. But not in a one single package as Tonido. If you have lot of high resolution photos, Tonido photos is a perfect fit. It uses p2p overlay to transfer photos. you don't need to wait for lengthy uploads. Tonido jukebox allows you to listen to your music collection from any device with a browser. So you can have a single music server that streams music to multiple devices. Tonido Torrent is a web based bit torrent client - If you want to start and stop torrents remotely - good option. Tonido thots is a simple journal to capture your thoughts - like your personal wordpress. TonidoPlug runs on 1/10 of your desktop or laptop power. That saves electricity costs. There are number of other apps are also in pipeline: screenshare, openid, backup-sync, backpack clone. In short, it really offers benefits other than not being cloud. It is quite possible one might not need any of these apps or the features that Tonido provides.It is not perfect. There are rough edges. We will correct it as we iterate. As we release more apps and iterate the best ones we have, we think the users will see the obvious benefits in using Tonido.
pmorici 17y ago
I can't believe they have this, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E072dWriCBw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E072dWriCBw YouTube video on their site promoting their product. It's a little over the top and I have to think it would turn a lot of people off to the product regardless of it's merit.
- codemechanic 17y ago
  This video is by Chris Pirillo. A neutral, 3rd party reviewer - passionate about technology (not associated with Tonido). We thought after seeing this video we couldn't explain Tonido better than Chris. Thats why we posted the video.
  - mahmud 17y ago
    No problem. cat >> ~/todo.org TODO::find another, neutral 3rd party who is both pasionate about technology and far less irritating than Chris Pirillo. ^d
    - kirubakaran 17y ago
      Why isn't Emacs open? :-p
  - pmorici 17y ago
    Perhaps a simple screen cast style video with narration (in a calm tone of voice) showing how good the product looks and how easy to use it is would be more effective.

7 points by codemechanic 17y ago

I don't know. I'm not really a cloud advocate but I do like the idea of having access to my data everywhere and not having to worry about my own personal server going down. That's a killer feature for me. So if you want to talk me into a home server and desktop apps you have to be able to do something impressive that a cloud soution can't. I don't see that here. Moreover, the tone of the "pro" part of this piece really turned me off. I won't blame the company because I don't know who chose the tone but to me this was fear mongering to sell a product (and for the record the one seems to be emulating their website). "All these evil big companies shouldn't have control of your data so you should fear them and run your own server" Well, I don't fear the power of one company's cloud. If they abuse me I'll just move to another. Beyond that I'm an IT manager so I know servers occasionally go down and at home I don't want to deal with that. Again, I'm open to desktop apps and local servers. But they have to use the power a local soultion provides to impress me. This doesn't seem to do anything a cloud solution couldn't and that makes it a no-go for me.

codemechanic 17y ago

Tom, Ultimately the power and usability of applications win. Why don't you give it a try. promise you it will be worth your time. The underpinning of Tonido is control of data. Even we have plans to offer Tonido on your own VPS.We just provide an alternative to cloud . Thats it. we don't hate or fear cloud services

TomOfTTB 17y ago
But why? My issue isn't that your solution looks bad it's that it looks no better than cloud solutions and I don't want to manage my own server unless there is an advantage. The only advantage I can see is "we're not in the cloud" and that means nothing to me. I'm not against you I just don't see the benefits (and since you're on HN this might be the perfect place for you to lay them out)
- codemechanic 17y ago
  For starters, Tonido workspace is a very powerful PIM and collaborative app that employs unique horizontal information schema. Honestly, we believe it is better or equal to the best collob apps available out there both in cloud and desktop. It will also allow you to sync your files across computers: work or home. Tonido webshare allows you to share files easily from your computer. You don't need to pay any subscription costs for a cloud storage. Yes there are other free apps available. But not in a one single package as Tonido. If you have lot of high resolution photos, Tonido photos is a perfect fit. It uses p2p overlay to transfer photos. you don't need to wait for lengthy uploads. Tonido jukebox allows you to listen to your music collection from any device with a browser. So you can have a single music server that streams music to multiple devices. Tonido Torrent is a web based bit torrent client - If you want to start and stop torrents remotely - good option. Tonido thots is a simple journal to capture your thoughts - like your personal wordpress. TonidoPlug runs on 1/10 of your desktop or laptop power. That saves electricity costs. There are number of other apps are also in pipeline: screenshare, openid, backup-sync, backpack clone. In short, it really offers benefits other than not being cloud. It is quite possible one might not need any of these apps or the features that Tonido provides.It is not perfect. There are rough edges. We will correct it as we iterate. As we release more apps and iterate the best ones we have, we think the users will see the obvious benefits in using Tonido.

pmorici 17y ago

I can't believe they have this, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E072dWriCBw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E072dWriCBw YouTube video on their site promoting their product. It's a little over the top and I have to think it would turn a lot of people off to the product regardless of it's merit.

codemechanic 17y ago
This video is by Chris Pirillo. A neutral, 3rd party reviewer - passionate about technology (not associated with Tonido). We thought after seeing this video we couldn't explain Tonido better than Chris. Thats why we posted the video.
- mahmud 17y ago
  No problem. cat >> ~/todo.org TODO::find another, neutral 3rd party who is both pasionate about technology and far less irritating than Chris Pirillo. ^d
  - kirubakaran 17y ago
    Why isn't Emacs open? :-p
- pmorici 17y ago
  Perhaps a simple screen cast style video with narration (in a calm tone of voice) showing how good the product looks and how easy to use it is would be more effective.