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It should be noted Textsecure is the default messaging app on Cyanogen which reaches 10 million devices. We really need to encourage folks to use these genuine

by zmanian 13y ago

It should be noted Textsecure is the default messaging app on Cyanogen which reaches 10 million devices. We really need to encourage folks to use these genuinely secure messaging apps rather encryption fairy dust like Telegram

awda 13y ago
Is it? I just updated to Cyanogen 10.2.1 and TextSecure is definitely a different app from Messaging. Or is this an 11.x feature? Edit: Oh, I see. Added as a silent feature in 10.2 messaging app. There is no visible indication that secure communication is happening (or possible). Ok. Better than nothing, and a good default.
- aroch 13y ago
  On first install when you're setting up the phone in the winzard, the last thing is WhisperPush
- sfall 13y ago
  you still have to set it up on CM but the text secure app has some nice added features
XorNot 13y ago
CM really needs to change the onboarding process for TextSecure since I've never enabled it because I don't understand it. Mainly that "seamless" migration between SMS and data channelled messaging is not something I want to happen because SMS costs me a fortune on my plan, whereas low-volume data costs me nothing. To that end, the options for the TS process during setup should make it clearer how data charges/SMS charges will be racked up, and indicate accordingly.
- garrettgrimsley 13y ago
  You can disable the SMS push. https://github.com/WhisperSystems/TextSecure/issues/639 https://github.com/WhisperSystems/TextSecure/issues/639
  - danieldk 13y ago
    Most users flocked to WhatsApp to avoid SMS charges. So, I think SMS push should've been off by default. Many users won't find out until it's too late.
    - nodata 13y ago
      When I installed it used the data channel to send messages, with SMS as fallback.
  - XorNot 13y ago
    Right but what I'm saying is: this is not indicated when it's presented to you. And worse, it's not clear how it interacts - i.e. does TextSecure send an SMS with a hash to find the real message, or does it check if both devices are online (I now know its the latter). But there's no way to tell at the most important moment - when this new thing is being put in front of me, and claiming to do things with a service that has a usage charge to me. It would be much better if SMS defaulted to off, it was made clear what it was, and SMS Push added as a "would you like to?" option instead.

by zmanian 13y ago

awda 13y ago

Is it? I just updated to Cyanogen 10.2.1 and TextSecure is definitely a different app from Messaging. Or is this an 11.x feature? Edit: Oh, I see. Added as a silent feature in 10.2 messaging app. There is no visible indication that secure communication is happening (or possible). Ok. Better than nothing, and a good default.

aroch 13y ago
On first install when you're setting up the phone in the winzard, the last thing is WhisperPush
sfall 13y ago
you still have to set it up on CM but the text secure app has some nice added features

XorNot 13y ago

CM really needs to change the onboarding process for TextSecure since I've never enabled it because I don't understand it. Mainly that "seamless" migration between SMS and data channelled messaging is not something I want to happen because SMS costs me a fortune on my plan, whereas low-volume data costs me nothing. To that end, the options for the TS process during setup should make it clearer how data charges/SMS charges will be racked up, and indicate accordingly.

garrettgrimsley 13y ago
You can disable the SMS push. https://github.com/WhisperSystems/TextSecure/issues/639 https://github.com/WhisperSystems/TextSecure/issues/639
- danieldk 13y ago
  Most users flocked to WhatsApp to avoid SMS charges. So, I think SMS push should've been off by default. Many users won't find out until it's too late.
  - nodata 13y ago
    When I installed it used the data channel to send messages, with SMS as fallback.
- XorNot 13y ago
  Right but what I'm saying is: this is not indicated when it's presented to you. And worse, it's not clear how it interacts - i.e. does TextSecure send an SMS with a hash to find the real message, or does it check if both devices are online (I now know its the latter). But there's no way to tell at the most important moment - when this new thing is being put in front of me, and claiming to do things with a service that has a usage charge to me. It would be much better if SMS defaulted to off, it was made clear what it was, and SMS Push added as a "would you like to?" option instead.