I've become increasingly more disgusted with IETF since I found out they have at least a few NSA agents working with them on protocols, and more importantly ref

I've become increasingly more disgusted with IETF since I found out they have at least a few NSA agents working with them on protocols, and more importantly refusing to kick them out - even after all the Snowden revelations with NSA trying to subvert and undermine encryption protocols: http://mirrors.dotsrc.org/fosdem/2014/Janson/Sunday/NSA_operation_ORCHESTRA_Annual_Status_Report.webm http://mirrors.dotsrc.org/fosdem/2014/Janson/Sunday/NSA_oper... Then I find out that they've been working with Cisco on another similar thing to this one for "legal intercepts", a.k.a "trusted backdoors", like we're seeing above. https://www.blackhat.com/presentations/bh-dc-10/Cross_Tom/BlackHat-DC-2010-Cross-Attacking-LawfulI-Intercept-wp.pdf https://www.blackhat.com/presentations/bh-dc-10/Cross_Tom/Bl... With NIST being already corrupted by the NSA, and now W3C becoming corrupted by MPAA, too, I think we're seeing the decay and fall of the "standard bodies", because I don't believe the Internet will tolerate these moves. The Internet will ignore them, do its own thing, and make it popular. I think future standards will be built from the bottom-up, and if I'm not mistaken most of the Internet so far has been built that way anyway.