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> "FireFox OS has less processing and memory requirements, since the OS and the services live mostly in the cloud. For example, most of the apps written for Fir

> "FireFox OS has less processing and memory requirements, since the OS and the services live mostly in the cloud. For example, most of the apps written for Firefox OS are written in HTML5 and can be run within a mobile browser." this statement makes no sense. HTML/CSS/JS is not run "in the cloud" it is run on your hardware. what services exactly are run in the cloud? gps? phonebook? baseband? camera? mic? wifi chip? the cpu scheduler? i dont see anything running in the cloud that will significantly reduce hardware requirements like Opera Mobile (maybe Mini, i forget) did with actual server-side html/css/js processing and passing back a serialized image with hit locations

daleharvey 13y ago
It just doesnt make sense, Firefox OS doesnt do more 'in the cloud' than you would expect.
- thirsteh 13y ago
  Don't question the power of the cloud!
  - leeoniya 13y ago
    sometimes i wonder if many tech evangelists & PR people are so detached from the technology they promote that they themselves don't understand what they mean when they say "cloud". the unwashed masses clearly have no way of understanding what "the cloud" is any more than "a series of tubes"
    - pavlov 13y ago
      I've noticed that a lot of people seem to think that "cloud servers" are either located in space, or that smartphones at least use some kind of satellite uplink to connect with "the cloud". I think people are simply mixing up GPS with Internet-based services. Anyway, it's pretty brilliant marketing for cloud companies. It's kind of poetic to think of your data as being "somewhere up in the sky", light as air -- sure beats the reality of thousands of hot, smelly data centers in nondescript office buildings.
      - leeoniya 13y ago
        "Daddy, when I die, will I be up there with my data?" ::facepalm::
        thirsteh 13y ago
        Well, to be fair, you can't entirely rule that out...
    - gregsq 13y ago
      Well i guess you'd call this explanation for a not insignificant number of listeners the possible beginning of a 'cloud religiosity'. http://youtu.be/ApQlMm39xr0 http://youtu.be/ApQlMm39xr0
    - chrismorgan 13y ago
      I've come across people that believe The Cloud is one specific place.
  - jbeja 13y ago
    I do question things that doesn't make any sense. Sorry
- leeoniya 13y ago
  not sure if this is meant to be sarcasm. but since you're working on FF OS, maybe you could clarify the obviously inaccurate marketing speak. P.S. i'm going to be the first to jump in and run it on my rooted HTC Jewel in lieu of CyanogenMod once there's a port. it can't come soon enough.
  - daleharvey 13y ago
    heh that was supposed to be a clarification, definitely not sarcasm, what he said didnt make sense, Firefox OS doesnt use any more, and probably uses a lot less 'cloud services' that other smartphones.
- chestnut-tree 13y ago
  Agree it doesn't make sense particularly since Firefox OS is meant for "emerging markets" where internet connectivity may be uneven or patchy. In other words, offline capability is even more important. I hope Firefox OS gains traction - an open source mobile OS that values your privacy and doesn't track you to death is something to be welcomed.
  - pjmlp 13y ago
    Is the full stack down to the drivers open source? Otherwise it is no different from the others. I still have issues with browser as OS idea anyway.
YZF 13y ago
You're thinking Amazon Silk? At any rate, yeah, doesn't make any sense. Marketing BS.
- leeoniya 13y ago
  no, Opera Mini http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opera_Mini http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opera_Mini "Opera Mini requests web pages through Opera Software's servers, which process and compress them before sending them to the mobile phone, speeding up transfer by two to three times and dramatically reducing the amount of data transferred, chargeable on many mobile phone data plans. The pre-processing increases compatibility with web pages not designed for mobile phones." i refused to use it because they could in theory MITM ssl sites, etc. [1] [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opera_Mini#Privacy_and_security http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opera_Mini#Privacy_and_security
JetSpiegel 13y ago
The people with that Chrome extension that replaces "could" with "butt" are laughing right now.

daleharvey 13y ago

It just doesnt make sense, Firefox OS doesnt do more 'in the cloud' than you would expect.

thirsteh 13y ago
Don't question the power of the cloud!
- leeoniya 13y ago
  sometimes i wonder if many tech evangelists & PR people are so detached from the technology they promote that they themselves don't understand what they mean when they say "cloud". the unwashed masses clearly have no way of understanding what "the cloud" is any more than "a series of tubes"
  - pavlov 13y ago
    I've noticed that a lot of people seem to think that "cloud servers" are either located in space, or that smartphones at least use some kind of satellite uplink to connect with "the cloud". I think people are simply mixing up GPS with Internet-based services. Anyway, it's pretty brilliant marketing for cloud companies. It's kind of poetic to think of your data as being "somewhere up in the sky", light as air -- sure beats the reality of thousands of hot, smelly data centers in nondescript office buildings.
    - leeoniya 13y ago
      "Daddy, when I die, will I be up there with my data?" ::facepalm::
      - thirsteh 13y ago
        Well, to be fair, you can't entirely rule that out...
  - gregsq 13y ago
    Well i guess you'd call this explanation for a not insignificant number of listeners the possible beginning of a 'cloud religiosity'. http://youtu.be/ApQlMm39xr0 http://youtu.be/ApQlMm39xr0
  - chrismorgan 13y ago
    I've come across people that believe The Cloud is one specific place.
- jbeja 13y ago
  I do question things that doesn't make any sense. Sorry
leeoniya 13y ago
not sure if this is meant to be sarcasm. but since you're working on FF OS, maybe you could clarify the obviously inaccurate marketing speak. P.S. i'm going to be the first to jump in and run it on my rooted HTC Jewel in lieu of CyanogenMod once there's a port. it can't come soon enough.
- daleharvey 13y ago
  heh that was supposed to be a clarification, definitely not sarcasm, what he said didnt make sense, Firefox OS doesnt use any more, and probably uses a lot less 'cloud services' that other smartphones.
chestnut-tree 13y ago
Agree it doesn't make sense particularly since Firefox OS is meant for "emerging markets" where internet connectivity may be uneven or patchy. In other words, offline capability is even more important. I hope Firefox OS gains traction - an open source mobile OS that values your privacy and doesn't track you to death is something to be welcomed.
- pjmlp 13y ago
  Is the full stack down to the drivers open source? Otherwise it is no different from the others. I still have issues with browser as OS idea anyway.

YZF 13y ago

You're thinking Amazon Silk? At any rate, yeah, doesn't make any sense. Marketing BS.

leeoniya 13y ago
no, Opera Mini http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opera_Mini http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opera_Mini "Opera Mini requests web pages through Opera Software's servers, which process and compress them before sending them to the mobile phone, speeding up transfer by two to three times and dramatically reducing the amount of data transferred, chargeable on many mobile phone data plans. The pre-processing increases compatibility with web pages not designed for mobile phones." i refused to use it because they could in theory MITM ssl sites, etc. [1] [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opera_Mini#Privacy_and_security http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opera_Mini#Privacy_and_security

JetSpiegel 13y ago

The people with that Chrome extension that replaces "could" with "butt" are laughing right now.