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Yes I have. No, they haven't. All you can do right now is to move the global menu from the "global" bar to the window bar. You can't still have it back to "def

by Spittie 13y ago

Yes I have. No, they haven't. All you can do right now is to move the global menu from the "global" bar to the window bar. You can't still have it back to "default", like other operative systems, and you can't still have it being visible by default. And, by the way, this was just one small point of my post. Everything else still applies.

res0nat0r 13y ago
This is the same lamenting and strife that one could also apply to Apple. OSX is their way or the highway. If Ubuntu listens to the loudest community whiners the UI would be a terrible mess. If you don't like the default desktop: sudo apt-get install -y fluxbox, or whatever of the dozens of other WM's are out there that you like better. Problem solved.
eklavya 13y ago
Ok, so default like which operating system, mac? windows? They are doing things differently, what's wrong with that? I like it and I use it, those who don't have plenty more DEs to choose from. By the way they do provide a way to change the size of the icons, since 12.04 at least.
Spittie 13y ago
(Can't reply to yours comments res0nat0r and eklavya, hopefully this will do anyway). By default like the operative system with 90%+ of the marketshare - Windows. I'm not saying that they're doing it good, but 90%+ of the people using a computer expect it to act that way. I'm also not saying that it should be the default, just have a tiny little option somewhere (instead of forcing me to remove the appmenu* packages, which I know how to do it, but my parents sure don't). I'm also not sure why are you attacking me and telling me to install another DE - I have (In fact, I don't even use Ubuntu anymore, as I don't like apt-get and some other stuff). I'm just saying that they should add some options to make everyone happy. I have the same feeling towards Gnome shell, but at least this one has easy-to-install plugins.
- eklavya 13y ago
  Hey :) nobody is attacking you. They have given you that option for menus now but if it's not enough there is always KDE(which I also use and love by the way ;) ) It goes both ways, they can't force you to use their stuff and you can't force them to do it your way. Let evolution take it's course, only good UIs will remain. For my parents I have installed Kubuntu, KDE always works and always has the features you need.

by Spittie 13y ago

res0nat0r 13y ago

This is the same lamenting and strife that one could also apply to Apple. OSX is their way or the highway. If Ubuntu listens to the loudest community whiners the UI would be a terrible mess. If you don't like the default desktop: sudo apt-get install -y fluxbox, or whatever of the dozens of other WM's are out there that you like better. Problem solved.

eklavya 13y ago

Ok, so default like which operating system, mac? windows? They are doing things differently, what's wrong with that? I like it and I use it, those who don't have plenty more DEs to choose from. By the way they do provide a way to change the size of the icons, since 12.04 at least.

Spittie 13y ago

(Can't reply to yours comments res0nat0r and eklavya, hopefully this will do anyway). By default like the operative system with 90%+ of the marketshare - Windows. I'm not saying that they're doing it good, but 90%+ of the people using a computer expect it to act that way. I'm also not saying that it should be the default, just have a tiny little option somewhere (instead of forcing me to remove the appmenu* packages, which I know how to do it, but my parents sure don't). I'm also not sure why are you attacking me and telling me to install another DE - I have (In fact, I don't even use Ubuntu anymore, as I don't like apt-get and some other stuff). I'm just saying that they should add some options to make everyone happy. I have the same feeling towards Gnome shell, but at least this one has easy-to-install plugins.

eklavya 13y ago
Hey :) nobody is attacking you. They have given you that option for menus now but if it's not enough there is always KDE(which I also use and love by the way ;) ) It goes both ways, they can't force you to use their stuff and you can't force them to do it your way. Let evolution take it's course, only good UIs will remain. For my parents I have installed Kubuntu, KDE always works and always has the features you need.