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This was a great point: That's 20 years ago. And for bundling a browser in the operating system that couldn't be uninstalled or easily replaced? S
by mik3y 13y ago
This was a great point:
That's 20 years ago. And for bundling a browser
in the operating system that couldn't be uninstalled
or easily replaced? Sure, no operating systems do that
in 2014. I wonder if I can swap out Chrome from Chrome
OS or Mobile Safari in iOS. Point is, it's common now.
I lived through this time "hating" Microsoft for some of the stuff it was doing then, and it's probably well past time to bury those hatchets.
But they still do rather icky things: Rockstar Bidco lawsuits and the "Scroogled" campaign come to mind. I'm biased, but they've got to can it with these things (and just innovate) until I'll look at them as a pleasant company.
- shanselman 13y agoYa, Scroogled was weird. I like the new office.com, though.
- RexRollman 13y agoAs a former Google user and Chromebook owner, I kind of agree with the sentiments of the Scroogled campaign. That said, I don't think it made for good commercials.
- bluthru 13y agoGoogle and Apple actually update their browsers, though. I don't think there would be as much concern if IE8 on XP automatically updated to IE11.
- shanselman 13y agoYa, XP doesn't update as XP is a 12 year old operating system and not supported. My Windows 7 machine just updated to IE11.
- bluthru 13y agoMozilla and Google offer update browsers for XP. Why can't MS do that with their own codebase?
- shanselman 13y agoMy GUESS - They choose not to. It's a 12 year old OS. That's old.
- dragontamer 13y agoI'd like to see a PPC iMac update to Safari. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMac_G5 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMac_G5 I mean, dear god. WindowsXP is OLDER than PowerPC iMacs. And people expect Microsoft to support it for free? Where the hell is my iMac G5 support? Oh yeah, thats right. Its in the trash. When Apple declared the PowerPC (or was it Mortorola?) dead, and switched over to x86 Machines.
- DrewRWx 13y agoActually, Apple transitioned from Motorola 68k to PowerPC in the mid-90s and the 2000s transition from PowerPC to x86 was their second successful transition.
- astrodust 13y agoNot just PowerPC, they've declared IA-32 dead as well, moving to x86-64. Keep in mind Safari is not a critical part of OS X and can be deleted without affecting anything.
- kybernetyk 13y ago> But they still do rather icky things Yes, I got reminded of that recently when I installed MS Office on my Mac. I just wanted Excel and Word - now I have Microsoft Messenger, Microsoft Remote Desktop, Microsoft Connection Manager(?!), Microsoft Communicator, Microsoft Office Setup Manager, Microsoft Document Connection, and the complementary launch agent "com.microsoft.office.licensing.helper". Best thing: They plastered my dock with app icons that I just couldn't drag out of the dock to delete them. I had to go the rightclick->submenu->"remove from dock" route for every of the ~10 icons. Now why would they do this? So the typical Mac user won't be able to remove them because the default way to remove them doesn't work? MS truly lives and breathes bloatware.
- FireBeyond 13y ago" I just wanted Excel and Word - now I have Microsoft Messenger, Microsoft Remote Desktop, Microsoft Connection Manager(?!), Microsoft Communicator, Microsoft Office Setup Manager, Microsoft Document Connection, and the complementary launch agent "com.microsoft.office.licensing.helper"." Yet when you were in that "Customize Installation" menu choosing Excel and Word, you for some reason didn't de-select Messenger, RDC, or the Dock Icons. And that's Microsoft's fault... hmm.
- gillianseed 13y agoEhh, I don't see how that was a great point since the problem with Windows bundling a browser which couldn't be uninstalled or easily replaced was that they were a monopoly on the desktop, OSX certainly is not, and of course neither is ChromeOS.