you raise some interesting points but i think you are quite misguided - despite having the right kind of idea imo. the fact that you use words like politics an

you raise some interesting points but i think you are quite misguided - despite having the right kind of idea imo. the fact that you use words like politics and expensive tells me we are imagining very different scenarios and consequences... what i mean by 'real problem with consequences you can feel' is unavoidable stuff where /nature/ forces you to pay attention or die. i.e. you must respond to the situation because it is vital for survival and doing actual harm to you whilst you do not. the fact that a flood is almost certainly going to happen tomorrow might make me run away - the flood happening right now forces me to run or die. /run or die/ that is what i am talking about. not freedom of choice but unavoidable force of nature. i think that is what it will take for people to do something - and it will need to happen to most of us if not all... i don't think thats a good thing. however i have a lot of faith in how creative and constructive people are when they are fighting for survival. cost and resources become irrelevant if they exist - if you need money (and you won't) then you will steal it because its preferable to dying... you will make a damned good effort too. the real limiting factors will be time vs. manpower (will we finish before we die - will we die trying?) and feasibility (i.e. does the universe allow it at all). of course we may also just let ourselves die... its a very real possibility that we end ourselves through the fallout from climate change. as an aside one of the biggest problems for climate change proponents, i feel, is that predictions are constantly wrong and have been historically. the situation you describe there i feel is very flawed... whilst it might be a good prediction is it really the thing to worry about? can you convince me of this? a classic case to point at in this regard is the recent global dimming due to particulates in the atmosphere - which have caused more problems where people actually have been dying and living a lower quality of life as a result of climate change. we are already not fixing these problems and ignoring them. people are actually dying today because of this problem - but nowhere near enough for people to seriously care - melting ice (nearly harmless artic ice as well which will not cause sea levels to rise appreciably if at all) is so very far away from that level of seriousness... let alone a survival scenario. ... long :I