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A massive variety of crap, mostly. The only thing that gets close to well connected countries in Europe is BT's Infinity. The rest are just pathetic ADSL offers

by Nux 13y ago

A massive variety of crap, mostly. The only thing that gets close to well connected countries in Europe is BT's Infinity. The rest are just pathetic ADSL offers or throttled-to-hell cable offers (Virgin, now UPC).

dasmoth 13y ago
Other ISPs have access to BTs FTTC (and, in the few areas it's deployed, FTTP) systems. Not every ISP offers this, but there are plenty of alternatives to BT Infinity.
orf 13y ago
I have a non-bt fiber package and my speeds beat most of my European friends top speeds. In fact it sometimes beats my Hetzner (German) based servers.
- Nux 13y ago
  Which isp?
  - orf 13y ago
    KC Internet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KCOM_Group http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KCOM_Group)
    - Nux 13y ago
      Thanks for the info.
      - orf 13y ago
        The speed can be amazing but sometimes it goes very very slow. We do have 5 people using it at peak times and the router they gave us is a bit shit.
cones688 13y ago
to repeat what Dasmoth calls out - BT Infinity is just fibre laid by Openreach it is available to any operator (Sky etc), BT have just a great job of branding it like you can't get fibre on other providers - except you can. http://www.sky.com/shop/broadband-talk/fibre-optic/ http://www.sky.com/shop/broadband-talk/fibre-optic/ https://sales.talktalk.co.uk/product/fibre https://sales.talktalk.co.uk/product/fibre http://www.plus.net/home-broadband/package-guides/fibre-optic-broadband/ http://www.plus.net/home-broadband/package-guides/fibre-opti...
- Nux 13y ago
  Mea culpa for not reading properly and thanks for explaining it. It's a shame more ISPs aren't doing it, I for one have not heard of anyone else but BT.
  - vertex-four 13y ago
    The relevant press release from Ofcom (the telecoms regulator, for those outside the UK): http://consumers.ofcom.org.uk/2010/10/supporting-the-uk%E2%80%99s-super-fast-broadband-future/ http://consumers.ofcom.org.uk/2010/10/supporting-the-uk%E2%8... BT Retail has just been really good at advertising it, the rest of the ISPs don't seem to have branding budgets to compete.

by Nux 13y ago

dasmoth 13y ago

Other ISPs have access to BTs FTTC (and, in the few areas it's deployed, FTTP) systems. Not every ISP offers this, but there are plenty of alternatives to BT Infinity.

orf 13y ago

I have a non-bt fiber package and my speeds beat most of my European friends top speeds. In fact it sometimes beats my Hetzner (German) based servers.

Nux 13y ago
Which isp?
- orf 13y ago
  KC Internet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KCOM_Group http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KCOM_Group)
  - Nux 13y ago
    Thanks for the info.
    - orf 13y ago
      The speed can be amazing but sometimes it goes very very slow. We do have 5 people using it at peak times and the router they gave us is a bit shit.

cones688 13y ago

to repeat what Dasmoth calls out - BT Infinity is just fibre laid by Openreach it is available to any operator (Sky etc), BT have just a great job of branding it like you can't get fibre on other providers - except you can. http://www.sky.com/shop/broadband-talk/fibre-optic/ http://www.sky.com/shop/broadband-talk/fibre-optic/ https://sales.talktalk.co.uk/product/fibre https://sales.talktalk.co.uk/product/fibre http://www.plus.net/home-broadband/package-guides/fibre-optic-broadband/ http://www.plus.net/home-broadband/package-guides/fibre-opti...

Nux 13y ago
Mea culpa for not reading properly and thanks for explaining it. It's a shame more ISPs aren't doing it, I for one have not heard of anyone else but BT.
- vertex-four 13y ago
  The relevant press release from Ofcom (the telecoms regulator, for those outside the UK): http://consumers.ofcom.org.uk/2010/10/supporting-the-uk%E2%80%99s-super-fast-broadband-future/ http://consumers.ofcom.org.uk/2010/10/supporting-the-uk%E2%8... BT Retail has just been really good at advertising it, the rest of the ISPs don't seem to have branding budgets to compete.