you're right on about this stuff. someone once told me "yeah rails is great except the libraries have fugly internals" but it's trueeee I prefer scripting lang

you're right on about this stuff. someone once told me "yeah rails is great except the libraries have fugly internals" but it's trueeee I prefer scripting languages to Java but there are a few of them available on the JVM. To be honest, I think the right balance is in the dynamic-OPTIONALLY-static typed languages. Java interoperability solves this in a way... I've been taking a look at Dart for similar reasons. I just don't think the answer for me is RoR. Once I learned a Lisp (Clojure) and a lot of javascript I realized a lot of the syntax features I like about Ruby exist in many other places What RoR really has going for it is the gem community, but if they're hard to trust and come with a slew of other problems...? Tough choices