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> During the great Icelandic banking crisis, the UK government used anti-terrorism laws to seize assets held by Icelandic banks. This is an oft-repeated distor
by jackgavigan 13y ago
> During the great Icelandic banking crisis, the UK government used anti-terrorism laws to seize assets held by Icelandic banks.
This is an oft-repeated distortion of the truth. The UK government did not seize any assets but, rather made a freezing order to prevent UK depositors' money being transferred from an Icelandic banks' UK-based subsidiary to Iceland (it was clear at the time that the Icelandic government intended to use - "steal" is probably a better word - foreign depositors' money to ensure that Icelandic depositors didn't lose out).
The freezing order was enacted under section 2 of the Anti-terrorism, Crime and Security Act 2001, on the basis that HM Treasury believed that "action to the detriment of the United Kingdom’s economy (or part of it) has been or is likely to be taken" by the Icelandic government. Critics of the UK governments' actions disingenuously refer to it as "anti-terrorism" legislation, conveniently ignoring the "Crime and Security" part of the Act's name. The freezing order was exercised correctly, appropriately and proportionally.
A fuller discussion of the topic can be found at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7142487 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7142487
David Miranda was found to be carrying tens of thousands of classified UK intelligence documents. I think he's lucky to have been allowed to go free, and not arrested for espionage. I suspect that the authorities felt a little sorry for him, given that he'd clearly been exploited by Greenwald.
- blueskin_ 13y agoCommon misconception. It's a law that relates to any crime, terrorism is just the primary focus.
- dTal 13y agoSounds like shorthand for "we used the threat of terrorism to push these otherwise unacceptable powers through, but we've worded it broadly enough to apply it to anything".
- naterator 13y ago>David Miranda was found to be carrying tens of thousands of classified UK intelligence documents. Was he, though? I mean, we all "know" he was carrying secret documents, but have they ever proven that? If the files are encrypted and they can't crack it to prove what those documents were, then we don't know anything. For all we know (and unless there are news reports I haven't seen), Miranda/Greenwald/Poitras could have encrypted a million pictures of Rick Astley, deliberately to see if they could pull the government into abusing it's power.
- viraptor 13y agoAnd now I know what goes on my alternative truecrypt partition...
- gadders 13y ago>Was he, though? Yes https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7263662 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7263662
- mpyne 13y agoNot only was he carrying those secret documents, he was also apparently carrying the decryption key written on a piece of paper for those documents. Truly a master of OPSEC and INFOSEC, that guy.
- TillE 13y agoThis is completely, utterly wrong. He had the key to the index of files, not the documents themselves.