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However NZ's anti-nuke stance and lack of military spend means that NZ will never get free trade agreement Is this an official policy? Why is nuclear such a bi

by omh 13y ago

However NZ's anti-nuke stance and lack of military spend means that NZ will never get free trade agreement Is this an official policy? Why is nuclear such a big deal, and how does the military factor in? Is it just that those are the major things the US would like to sell to NZ?

xlevus 13y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zealand%27s_nuclear-free_zone https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zealand%27s_nuclear-free_z... Yep, it's the law. Much to the chagrin of the US. Their Military has no Nuclear weapons, and the population is pretty strongly opposed to anything nuclear, instead favouring 'green' technology. I'd go as far to say, as it's now so entrenched in NZ's identity, if any government that tried to repeal it, it would be an act of political suicide.
- omh 13y ago
  Sorry, my reply was badly phrased. I understand NZ's anti-nuclear stance, I was just wondering why the US think that's so important for free trade agreements.
  - icu 13y ago
    Hi, I just answered your question above.
icu 13y ago
Hi, yes it is an official policy. It has to do with New Zealander's objection to nuclear weapons which was brought about by nuclear weapons testing in the pacific by the French. This has a knock on effect of straining NZ and US military ties and therefore NZ and US economic ties. * Anti-Nuke Background The watershed was the 1985 sinking of the Rainbow Warrior, a Greenpeace protest ship, in New Zealand by French secret agents that lead to the death of one of the crew.[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinking_of_the_Rainbow_Warrior http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinking_of_the_Rainbow_Warrior] This enraged the general public in NZ and lead to wide spread protest. Since the mid-1980s the anti-nuke stance has become part of the Kiwi psyche to the point where no Government would dare change it. * Being anti-nukes effects NZ and US military relations This causes problems with NZ and US relations because the US has a nuclear powered navy with nuclear weapons (ships and subs) and therefore no US watercraft are allowed in NZ territorial boarders as the US Navy has a "neither confirm nor deny" policy when it comes to the nuclear capability of a particular ship. Also because NZ has a very small military budget, NZ relies heavily on the assumption that the US provides regional protection in the Pacific. This has lead to a strained military relationship. If you are interested in a summary read the Wikipedia ANZUS article.[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ANZUS http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ANZUS] * Strained military relations lead to strained economic relations The trouble that NZ has is that the economic benefits of free trade with the US are worth a lot more to NZ than the US. NZ really has no leverage except to let the US do what it wants, and the US cares deeply about unconstrained military options. Because of the constraint on the US Navy by NZ's anti-nuke stance, this means that until NZ changes, the US will not bargain with NZ on other issues like trade.

by omh 13y ago

xlevus 13y ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zealand%27s_nuclear-free_zone https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zealand%27s_nuclear-free_z... Yep, it's the law. Much to the chagrin of the US. Their Military has no Nuclear weapons, and the population is pretty strongly opposed to anything nuclear, instead favouring 'green' technology. I'd go as far to say, as it's now so entrenched in NZ's identity, if any government that tried to repeal it, it would be an act of political suicide.

omh 13y ago
Sorry, my reply was badly phrased. I understand NZ's anti-nuclear stance, I was just wondering why the US think that's so important for free trade agreements.
- icu 13y ago
  Hi, I just answered your question above.

icu 13y ago

Hi, yes it is an official policy. It has to do with New Zealander's objection to nuclear weapons which was brought about by nuclear weapons testing in the pacific by the French. This has a knock on effect of straining NZ and US military ties and therefore NZ and US economic ties. * Anti-Nuke Background The watershed was the 1985 sinking of the Rainbow Warrior, a Greenpeace protest ship, in New Zealand by French secret agents that lead to the death of one of the crew.[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinking_of_the_Rainbow_Warrior http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinking_of_the_Rainbow_Warrior] This enraged the general public in NZ and lead to wide spread protest. Since the mid-1980s the anti-nuke stance has become part of the Kiwi psyche to the point where no Government would dare change it. * Being anti-nukes effects NZ and US military relations This causes problems with NZ and US relations because the US has a nuclear powered navy with nuclear weapons (ships and subs) and therefore no US watercraft are allowed in NZ territorial boarders as the US Navy has a "neither confirm nor deny" policy when it comes to the nuclear capability of a particular ship. Also because NZ has a very small military budget, NZ relies heavily on the assumption that the US provides regional protection in the Pacific. This has lead to a strained military relationship. If you are interested in a summary read the Wikipedia ANZUS article.[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ANZUS http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ANZUS] * Strained military relations lead to strained economic relations The trouble that NZ has is that the economic benefits of free trade with the US are worth a lot more to NZ than the US. NZ really has no leverage except to let the US do what it wants, and the US cares deeply about unconstrained military options. Because of the constraint on the US Navy by NZ's anti-nuke stance, this means that until NZ changes, the US will not bargain with NZ on other issues like trade.