> The discipline of modern desktop/web development has not reached the embedded world, except in a few high-margin areas (such as military and transportation).

> The discipline of modern desktop/web development has not reached the embedded world, except in a few high-margin areas (such as military and transportation). My experience is that it hasn't penetrated very far there, either. Sure, we had version control and code reviews. The process was so warped and bastardized from industry standards, though, that it became a CYA/box-checking burden to keep the SQAs who really didn't understand code happy than a tool to improve development. Plus, most of the managing and systems engineers were hardware types[1] who didn't really understand what the software groups were doing or how they operated. [1] Important note: I'm a hardware type, too. I'm just a hardware type that actually got and wrote software. Made the situation doubly frustrating.