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>> robots doing chores for them and having time to work on personal projects or take leisure time This has already happened. Washing machines, vacuum cleaner

by 7952 13y ago

>> robots doing chores for them and having time to work on personal projects or take leisure time This has already happened. Washing machines, vacuum cleaners, dishwashers, and mass produced food have turned what used to be a full time difficult job into a chore for your spare time. It created more time for people to do paid work. The ironic thing is that nowadays people love some of those chores (like cooking, growing vegetables, or making bread). We should aspire to a society where people have the choice to take pride in what they do.

mcv 13y ago
> We should aspire to a society where people have the choice to take pride in what they do. And to do what they take pride in. How many people today are really proud of what they do? How many aren't? How many are simply doing it because it pays the bills? Wouldn't it be much better if they didn't have to do that drudgery anymore, and could instead focus on what they really want?
- 7952 13y ago
  This kind of arguments is at risk of being condescending. It is perfectly respectable to spend you day working on boring tasks just to get a pay check. In fact a lot of more desirable jobs have large amounts of drudge, admin, and pointless meetings. That is a consequence of doing activities in a group for something greater than your own vanity. Hobbies remain fun because they are less consequential; you can afford a little indulgence. Making things for other people creates risk; which is mitigated with boring repetitive procedures.
  - mcv 13y ago
    I think you're missing the point. It's not there's anything wrong with people _doing_ boring useless tasks, the problem is that they _have to do_ boring and useless tasks. It's not condescending towards the people, it's criticism towards the system. The system is wrong, the people are its victims.
yoha 13y ago
Exactly. It about having the choice in doing them or doing something instead.

by 7952 13y ago

mcv 13y ago

> We should aspire to a society where people have the choice to take pride in what they do. And to do what they take pride in. How many people today are really proud of what they do? How many aren't? How many are simply doing it because it pays the bills? Wouldn't it be much better if they didn't have to do that drudgery anymore, and could instead focus on what they really want?

7952 13y ago
This kind of arguments is at risk of being condescending. It is perfectly respectable to spend you day working on boring tasks just to get a pay check. In fact a lot of more desirable jobs have large amounts of drudge, admin, and pointless meetings. That is a consequence of doing activities in a group for something greater than your own vanity. Hobbies remain fun because they are less consequential; you can afford a little indulgence. Making things for other people creates risk; which is mitigated with boring repetitive procedures.
- mcv 13y ago
  I think you're missing the point. It's not there's anything wrong with people _doing_ boring useless tasks, the problem is that they _have to do_ boring and useless tasks. It's not condescending towards the people, it's criticism towards the system. The system is wrong, the people are its victims.

yoha 13y ago

Exactly. It about having the choice in doing them or doing something instead.