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We are now living through a weird transition phase were most jobs are bullshit You are either extremely arrogant or you are trolling. I can't believe you can s

by kfk 13y ago

We are now living through a weird transition phase were most jobs are bullshit You are either extremely arrogant or you are trolling. I can't believe you can say things like this and nobody is pointing you how absurd and how bad this sounds. What now? The only real "job" is typing letters in a text editor? Didn't they cut a lot of those jobs already? I mean, things like frameworks must cut a lot of programming jobs, right? They were bullshit jobs before they were cut? Most of those "bullshit" jobs are in companies that create massive wealth. You are either saying that such companies are complete idiots, or I don't know what you are saying, nobody, nobody, hires for the sake of hiring.

null_ptr 13y ago
If not bullshit, how else would you describe driving long commutes each day and night, only to park your ass in a cubicle for 10 hours and shuffle PowerPoint reports for some dick that doesn't even know what he needs them for in the first place? A lot of white collar jobs are adult busy work. A lot of blue collar jobs are wasting away people's potential and creativity all the same, burning them out and making them bitter. The sooner people are free and confident to pursue their genuine interests the better off we'll all be.
- kfk 13y ago
  What do you know about these jobs? Do you have any actual facts proving that those are BS jobs?
TelmoMenezes 13y ago
> nobody, nobody, hires for the sake of hiring. Of course they do. Two examples: - managers at all levels have an incentive to expand their fiefdoms (common interview question: how many people report to you?); - politicians have an incentive to lower unemployment and the power to create incentives for companies to hire people that they don't need.
- kfk 13y ago
  You forget managers have budgets and budgets have to tie with a financial strategy. Company are judged on profitability and this pushes up efficiency and productivity. Have you actually ever worked in a big co? The only time I hear of hiring for the sake of hiring is when stupid laws create monopolies or in the public sector.
VikingCoder 13y ago
> create massive wealth On paper, they do. What really matters in life is being able to satisfy your needs. Everything else is luxury. If you have clean air, food, water, sex, sleep, sanitary waste removal, housing, electricity... You're just talking about companies accumulating small pieces of green cloth / paper with numbers written on them. Or just numbers in some bank computer somewhere. Or worse, piles of the element gold. None of things INHERENTLY satisfy your needs. But since satisfying your needs requires resources that used to be scarce, then currency used to be the best way to allocate those resources, and also direct labor. Yay, capitalism! When you have a division of labor, how do you decide how many chickens a farmer needs to give a doctor for performing an appendectomy? Well, that's an economy. But when there is no shortage of resources, and there's essentially no labor that needs to be directed, strictly in order to satisfy your basic needs... Then we're just negotiating for our own luxury, and getting people to create luxury goods and services for us. So, yes, to a degree, those jobs are just bullshit. And when your bullshit, luxury job allows you to acquire luxury amounts of food and water making those resources even more scarce, at the expense of people who actually NEED that food and water to live, yes, it is at least somewhat rational to begin questioning the entire system.

by kfk 13y ago

null_ptr 13y ago

If not bullshit, how else would you describe driving long commutes each day and night, only to park your ass in a cubicle for 10 hours and shuffle PowerPoint reports for some dick that doesn't even know what he needs them for in the first place? A lot of white collar jobs are adult busy work. A lot of blue collar jobs are wasting away people's potential and creativity all the same, burning them out and making them bitter. The sooner people are free and confident to pursue their genuine interests the better off we'll all be.

kfk 13y ago
What do you know about these jobs? Do you have any actual facts proving that those are BS jobs?

TelmoMenezes 13y ago

> nobody, nobody, hires for the sake of hiring. Of course they do. Two examples: - managers at all levels have an incentive to expand their fiefdoms (common interview question: how many people report to you?); - politicians have an incentive to lower unemployment and the power to create incentives for companies to hire people that they don't need.

kfk 13y ago
You forget managers have budgets and budgets have to tie with a financial strategy. Company are judged on profitability and this pushes up efficiency and productivity. Have you actually ever worked in a big co? The only time I hear of hiring for the sake of hiring is when stupid laws create monopolies or in the public sector.

VikingCoder 13y ago

> create massive wealth On paper, they do. What really matters in life is being able to satisfy your needs. Everything else is luxury. If you have clean air, food, water, sex, sleep, sanitary waste removal, housing, electricity... You're just talking about companies accumulating small pieces of green cloth / paper with numbers written on them. Or just numbers in some bank computer somewhere. Or worse, piles of the element gold. None of things INHERENTLY satisfy your needs. But since satisfying your needs requires resources that used to be scarce, then currency used to be the best way to allocate those resources, and also direct labor. Yay, capitalism! When you have a division of labor, how do you decide how many chickens a farmer needs to give a doctor for performing an appendectomy? Well, that's an economy. But when there is no shortage of resources, and there's essentially no labor that needs to be directed, strictly in order to satisfy your basic needs... Then we're just negotiating for our own luxury, and getting people to create luxury goods and services for us. So, yes, to a degree, those jobs are just bullshit. And when your bullshit, luxury job allows you to acquire luxury amounts of food and water making those resources even more scarce, at the expense of people who actually NEED that food and water to live, yes, it is at least somewhat rational to begin questioning the entire system.