Thank you, I'll check that Simek tome out. Think I mentioned this here before but never mind. Another great book about the whole round/flat debate (and much mu

Thank you, I'll check that Simek tome out. Think I mentioned this here before but never mind. Another great book about the whole round/flat debate (and much much more) is Arthur Koestler's The Sleepwalkers: A History of Man's Changing Vision of the Universe. Basically the ancient Greeks had this one all figured out - Aristarchus[1] "who presented the first known model that placed the Sun at the center of the known universe with the Earth revolving around it" I didn't know about the crossing the equator thing, nor did I know about the Augustinian view but it doesn't surprise me :) [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aristarchus_of_Samos http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aristarchus_of_Samos