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If you're at a startup as employee like 1-5, you're going to need to believe the equity is worth something. Otherwise why would you want to work at a startup?
by balls187 13y ago
If you're at a startup as employee like 1-5, you're going to need to believe the equity is worth something.
Otherwise why would you want to work at a startup?
The company doesn't have money to pay you market rate, and if they did, they shouldn't be spending it hiring one person.
Lets say you're market rate is $120k, but they offer you $65k, and 3.5% equity. Yes that might be insulting, but with that $55k difference, they could conceivably hire a 2nd (perhaps less senior) engineer, which will make your life a lot better, and increase the chances of the company succeeding.
So we founders offer you equity (in a pretty sizable chunk actually), in exchange for your hardwork and talents, recognizing that you should be paid more, but you're taking a big cut to help us build something cool.
If your goal is to make market salary, and wealth maximization, dont work at a startup (prior to say Series-C). You will be underpaid, and overworked, but you will get a good equity chunk, so that if the company is successful (it wont), you will be well rewarded.
Now if you've gotten fired after a month, chances are you're not the right fit, or worse, you were a detractor. But being worried about being fired, is generally an irrational worry, because it's hard to hire someone, let alone someone willing to work a lot, and for little pay.
- Jemaclus 13y agoSure, but now at 65K, I can barely afford my rent. You're asking me to live paycheck-to-paycheck for the idea that you MIGHT make it, and we all know the statistics for startups: most of them don't make it. So now you're asking me to take a 55K salary cut, promising me imaginary money that will be (I'll give you the benefit of the doubt) worth the difference in 4 years, and in the meantime, I can barely pay my bills, barely have a social life (because I'm working so hard to make your company successful AND because I have no money). I don't mind working at a startup, but like OP said and like I've said before, I would really have to believe in the company, and it would have to be a C-level position or better. In my experience, I get that 55K cut and 0.5% equity, which just isn't quite worth it. But again, like OP said, the goal is to "pay market rate as soon as you can," and I'm merely pointing out that equity is not a replacement for salary -- my landlord won't accept equity as rent. You still have to pay me enough to not feel like I'm drowning -- and the equity has to be enough to make me want to work my ass off to make your company succeed.