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If you are dissatisfied with your compensation, speak up before you go looking elsewhere. If you say you're leaving, do it. Accepting a counter-offer is almost
by gresrun 13y ago
If you are dissatisfied with your compensation, speak up before you go looking elsewhere. If you say you're leaving, do it.
Accepting a counter-offer is almost always a bad idea; no matter how much money is on the table. After accepting a counter-offer you are bought and paid-for, you decided to stay for the cash and, unfortunately, your loyalty to the company will be questioned forever after.
- gutnor 13y agoThat is the standard advice and I have agreed with it for a long time. However, that highly depends on the company, especially large one. There is very often a disconnect between line management, HR, and all the parallel hierarchies that make up the company - meaning there is no direct relationship between people caring about your loyalty and people that have the means to do anything about it. Personally, nowadays I'm almost convinced there is no drawback. I have seen just too many people offered a red carpet for years after such threats.
- paul_f 13y agoMaybe you didn't know you were worth more, and neither did your employer?
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- brownbat 13y ago> your loyalty to the company will be questioned If loyalty means "you can fuck me over and I'll stick around," it's a vice, not a virtue. Loyalty keeps sweatshops fully staffed while keeping good businesses from replacing anyone who is a bad fit. In fact, why would any business want a "loyal" employee, someone incapable of recognizing or acting in situations that have grown lopsided? If someone struggles with strategic decisionmaking in their own life, why trust them to aggressively act in the best interests of the business? Feudalism is long dead. The occasional job change shouldn't merit a scarlet letter.
- wpietri 13y agoYour model is too simple. In my mind, a loyal employee is one who will ride out the ups and downs in a relationship, and put in the effort necessary to make things work. The same is true for a loyal employer. To that end, I think a loyal employee should speak up when they think they deserve more money, because it is in everybody's best interests that they be fairly paid. And I think a loyal boss should a) do their best to make sure that employees are already fairly paid, and b) when they slip, to be grateful that an employee has taken the risk of talking about something that can be difficult.
- eropple 13y agoI get what you're saying, but I don't feel like calling his model "too simple" is fair when yours is predicated on loyal employers. They exist, but I think I'd be hard-pressed to rely on their beneficence.
- wpietri 13y agoI don't think any healthy relationship involves relying on beneficence. Loyalty for me at work is more about recognizing and acting for long-term benefit, not short-term gain. I think loyalty, along with trust, gets built over time, and it's something both parties have to work toward. By "too simple", I meant that his model of the world was too black and white. Trust isn't a binary condition. It's a continuum. A collaboration.