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Sorry for any and all rambling. Hey OP, I'm a 19 year old software developer in NYC. I didn't go to college myself, and I was in your position not too long ag
by philangist 13y ago
Sorry for any and all rambling.
Hey OP,
I'm a 19 year old software developer in NYC. I didn't go to college myself, and
I was in your position not too long ago, so I think I can offer some helpful advice.
First of all, you don't need to go to college to get a job as a software
developer, especially if you live in/near a tech hub (NYC, San Fran, Seattle, Austin, etc).
However you'll probably be limited to smallish startups, at least until you build
up some professional experience. If you're genuinely confident that you can handle
a fulltime position now, then I'd suggest just applying to companies near you
that you're interested in working for. On the other hand, you could try working
for one or two companies as an intern over the next few months. This is what I did,
and although it was difficult getting paid very little (or nothing) at times, it
was worth it because I was able to leverage my experience for a fulltime position. Either
way I'd suggest creating a nice resume for yourself and putting up some code on
github. This will go a long way towards making you look 'professional'.
It's true that not going to school will mean that you might miss out on some
fundamental CS knowledge, but this doesn't have to be the case. With wikipedia,
google, stack overflow, moocs, and online lecture notes/textbooks, you'll have
access to the same knowledge as your average undergrad in a state school. With
the added benefit of being able to place all this information within a real-life
context. You're probably not going to learn as fast as someone immersed in a cs
curriculum, but you'll be getting paid an absurd amount of money to learn this
stuff, instead of spending the same amount of money.
There are some disadvantages to entering the workforce at such a young age
though, nothing major but I thought you should be aware:
- All the girls our age are in college. Literally all of them. It makes dating
very difficult.
- You'll always be 'the young guy' at work. Prepare for endless jokes about
your age.
- A lot of people will probably look down on you for not going to
college. Don't let it get to you, these people don't matter.
- All the girls our age are in college. Think about what this really
means and if you're willing to deal with it. You're probably not going
to meet girls frequently until you're 21. I've repeated this twice for a reason.
- You won't always be able to go to bars after work with coworkers.
Nonetheless, being a fulltime developer is awesome. I've got zero debt, I get
paid an absurd amount of money, and I love my job. Good luck dude.
P.S: Learn Emacs. It's awesome.
- maratd 13y ago> All the girls our age are in college. Literally all of them. It makes dating very difficult. This is a limiting belief that you've ingrained deep down and it is seriously hurting you. You really, really need to work on this. The truth is, you're not 100% sure you made the right call and this is seeping through. You have a job. Income. Probably your own place, car, etc. You know what she has? Debt. You're not working at McDonalds. You have a job that she will kill for years from now. Also, there is nothing wrong with dating slightly older women. Especially those who just graduated and realize they pissed away four years of their life to work as a secretary.
- philangist 13y agoYou're probably right that it's a limiting belief/excuse on my part, but the reality is dating outside of college is more difficult than doing so as a college student. This is compounded with the fact that like a lot of other techy people I was awkward with the opposite sex in high school. I still haven't fully gotten over that attitude now that I'm in the real world, and you were obviously able to pick up on that. But I'm working on it. I have interesting hobbies, go out every now and then (mostly to concerts), I'm trying to dress better, and I work out a few times a week (which has done wonders for my self confidence). But hey, if you've got any dating advice I'm definitely willing to listen.
- nostrademons 13y agoMany colleges these days (particularly in progressive urban areas) have a big hook-up culture. Dating in college is pretty tough too: very few people are actually interested in dating, it's largely "I got drunk at a party and hooked up with this guy I met on the dance floor". The equation changes dramatically after age 30, when a number of women who spent their 20s figuring out what they want, going after it, and generally making themselves awesome all decide they want to find a husband, and then realize that many of the guys who were interested in committing got married in their mid-20s, and many of the guys who are left have no intention of settling down...ever. If I had to give advice to my 20-year-old self, as my 32-year-old-with-a-steady-girlfriend-self who didn't start dating until 29, it'd probably be not to sweat it so much. Go out, explore life, meet women, have fun, and realize that nobody has it figured out at 20. Being picky and taking dating more seriously than it needs to be just meant that I got to make all the mistakes at age 30 that I should've made at age 20.