> I mean who in 2014 is going to start a new project in PHP apart from people that can't be bothered to learn something else ? People who refrain from having t

> I mean who in 2014 is going to start a new project in PHP apart from people that can't be bothered to learn something else ? People who refrain from having the standard knee-jerk "lol php is bad" reaction whenever it's being mentioned. Of course the language has its warts and pitfalls, but then again, most languages do, and it's a fairly usable tool for a fair amount of jobs. Care to show me a language with the same adoption rate (especially among hosters, which is something a lot of web devs simply have to keep in mind), ease of getting a project from zero to gone live?