There's something sad about that division of people in engineers and designers. For any application that pretends to be worth anything, 'engineers' also partici

There's something sad about that division of people in engineers and designers. For any application that pretends to be worth anything, 'engineers' also participate to the design phase from an early stage, and 'designers' have sufficient knowledge of the basic engineering issues to take into account. IMO the job title 'designer' is really void of meaning and should go away, but I'm not holding my breath. Perpetuating the "designers are fearies and engineers are robots" stereotype doesn't really help in any way