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So nowadays to Apple innovation means to increase fps from 59 to 60? Shadow DOM might be really, really useful for millions of developers building ordinary bus

by dgregd 13y ago

So nowadays to Apple innovation means to increase fps from 59 to 60? Shadow DOM might be really, really useful for millions of developers building ordinary business web apps. It is 2014 and would be good to add new things like Shadow DOM, new layout models so in _2020_ there will be standard and a sane way to center a ... div.

sirn 13y ago
> So nowadays to Apple innovation means to increase fps from 59 to 60? It is a joke at Blink removing CSS Regions' 10k LOC for mobile performance. > Shadow DOM might be really, really useful for millions of developers building ordinary business web apps. Current implementation of Shadow DOM has little to do with future implementation of Web Component's Shadow DOM (See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7243328 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7243328). It was already removed 9 months ago after the Blink fork due to its experimental nature and lack of maintainer (http://trac.webkit.org/changeset/150070 http://trac.webkit.org/changeset/150070). This commit only removing the remaining parts of it.
coldtea 13y ago
>So nowadays to Apple innovation means to increase fps from 59 to 60? No, and count the ways you got it wrong: 1) This is not Apple in general, it's a specific team at Apple. 2) The never said this is "innovation" to them. Just a goal they have. 3) Who said it's from 59 to 60? Might be from 30 to 60fps. 4) Smooth animation/scrolling experience matters and IS innovation. Even worse, the whole line is a joke -- at a similar Google line.
vjeux 13y ago
Flexbox is actually very good and works on all the mobile browsers today and most desktop browsers if you ignore old IE.
- emn13 13y ago
  Not to mention shadow dom isn't actually a layout technique, so centering a div (which is currently possible if non-obvious) is an odd tangent to mention.
- dgregd 13y ago
  I cannot ignore IE9.

by dgregd 13y ago

sirn 13y ago

> So nowadays to Apple innovation means to increase fps from 59 to 60? It is a joke at Blink removing CSS Regions' 10k LOC for mobile performance. > Shadow DOM might be really, really useful for millions of developers building ordinary business web apps. Current implementation of Shadow DOM has little to do with future implementation of Web Component's Shadow DOM (See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7243328 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7243328). It was already removed 9 months ago after the Blink fork due to its experimental nature and lack of maintainer (http://trac.webkit.org/changeset/150070 http://trac.webkit.org/changeset/150070). This commit only removing the remaining parts of it.

coldtea 13y ago

>So nowadays to Apple innovation means to increase fps from 59 to 60? No, and count the ways you got it wrong: 1) This is not Apple in general, it's a specific team at Apple. 2) The never said this is "innovation" to them. Just a goal they have. 3) Who said it's from 59 to 60? Might be from 30 to 60fps. 4) Smooth animation/scrolling experience matters and IS innovation. Even worse, the whole line is a joke -- at a similar Google line.

vjeux 13y ago

Flexbox is actually very good and works on all the mobile browsers today and most desktop browsers if you ignore old IE.

emn13 13y ago
Not to mention shadow dom isn't actually a layout technique, so centering a div (which is currently possible if non-obvious) is an odd tangent to mention.
dgregd 13y ago
I cannot ignore IE9.