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You mean; like a world where men would be send to war and just very few women? or a world where most homeless people are straight males? Or a world where women

by ivanca 13y ago

You mean; like a world where men would be send to war and just very few women? or a world where most homeless people are straight males? Or a world where women get custody of the child on the majority of the divorces? Oh wait, that is this world; I guess you will have to pick your bias of what oppression actually means.

calibraxis 13y ago
Who kills soldiers in war? Dudes. Who orders them into war? Dudes. Who's in charge of gov't and corporations which decide on war? Dudes. In fact, women often have to fight for the right to be soldiers. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_the_military#In_the_United_States http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_the_military#In_the_Un...) Who's in control of societies with norms where women are supposed to be at home taking care of kids while men are programmers or something? Dudes. Unless you have a shadow conspiracy where presidents and capitalists are backed by women.
- lutusp 13y ago
  A very misleading picture of human societies. Two of the biggest disappointments one encounters when dealing with men and women in life: 1. Trying to talk a a man out of becoming a soldier, for lack of anything better to do with himself. 2. Trying to talk a woman out of bearing a soldier, for lack of anything better do to with herself. It's called "shared responsibility," and the version of feminism that tries to blame men for everything is intellectually bankrupt.
- JanezStupar 13y ago
  No True Scotsman? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2137411/Rasema-Handanovic-guilty-war-crimes-Bosnia.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2137411/Rasema-Handa... Also I have had a couple of things from the video done to me by women. How should I feel about it?
- meric 13y ago
  You write as if there's a shadow conspiracy to keep females from playing masculine roles. Have you ever thought that the reason most soldiers are men, that generals are men, and governments and corporations are headed by mostly men, that the parent that stays home to take care of the kid is usually a woman, is because men are more inclined to play masculine roles, and women are more inclined to play feminine roles, out of their own natural preferences, due to the way their bodies are built, and the way hormones in said bodies are emitted? It's undeniable that there are physical differences between men and women, and it would be a gross denial of reality to suggest physical differences' effects on society could be rendered meaningless simply because people agree they can be. Confucius once said “Let the ruler be a ruler, the subject a subject, the father a father, the son a son.” "Truly if the ruler be not a ruler, the subject not a subject, the father not a father, the son not a son, then even if there be grain, would I get to eat it?” (Analects 12:11) And I'll add to it "Let men be men, and women be women. If the men are not men and women are not women, then all you'd have are a bunch of androgynous adults.". It's possible for men and women to have equal status, but it is lunacy to suggest that men and women are equal, because they absolutely are not and cannot be. It makes as much sense to suggest dogs can be equal to cats, that apples can be equal to oranges.
locopati 13y ago
Did you watch the film? Is it necessary to downplay it and bring in your own concerns instead of engaging the concerns raised in the film? This is not a zero-sum game of suffering and your concerns are intimately connected to those raised in the film. How can it be otherwise? To use your example around men being sent to war. Do you think that's entirely unrelated to excluding the perspective and ideas of half of the population? Such that we've chosen a narrow set of options for conflict resolution instead of including the wide range of human creativity.
- ivanca 13y ago
  Power is a natural game, is not intrinsic to human beings. For example elephants act against other elephants clans. Yes; I commented because was washing the film and feel repulsion for all the biased lies it tells, did you know men are also abused but just don't report it as much as women because they ridiculed and not taken seriously?. I actually didn't downplay it enough just for the sake of not getting my comment killed by downvotes, if you want to know why you can learn from a wonderful lady: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqEeCCuFFO8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqEeCCuFFO8

by ivanca 13y ago

calibraxis 13y ago

Who kills soldiers in war? Dudes. Who orders them into war? Dudes. Who's in charge of gov't and corporations which decide on war? Dudes. In fact, women often have to fight for the right to be soldiers. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_the_military#In_the_United_States http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_the_military#In_the_Un...) Who's in control of societies with norms where women are supposed to be at home taking care of kids while men are programmers or something? Dudes. Unless you have a shadow conspiracy where presidents and capitalists are backed by women.

lutusp 13y ago
A very misleading picture of human societies. Two of the biggest disappointments one encounters when dealing with men and women in life: 1. Trying to talk a a man out of becoming a soldier, for lack of anything better to do with himself. 2. Trying to talk a woman out of bearing a soldier, for lack of anything better do to with herself. It's called "shared responsibility," and the version of feminism that tries to blame men for everything is intellectually bankrupt.
JanezStupar 13y ago
No True Scotsman? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2137411/Rasema-Handanovic-guilty-war-crimes-Bosnia.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2137411/Rasema-Handa... Also I have had a couple of things from the video done to me by women. How should I feel about it?
meric 13y ago
You write as if there's a shadow conspiracy to keep females from playing masculine roles. Have you ever thought that the reason most soldiers are men, that generals are men, and governments and corporations are headed by mostly men, that the parent that stays home to take care of the kid is usually a woman, is because men are more inclined to play masculine roles, and women are more inclined to play feminine roles, out of their own natural preferences, due to the way their bodies are built, and the way hormones in said bodies are emitted? It's undeniable that there are physical differences between men and women, and it would be a gross denial of reality to suggest physical differences' effects on society could be rendered meaningless simply because people agree they can be. Confucius once said “Let the ruler be a ruler, the subject a subject, the father a father, the son a son.” "Truly if the ruler be not a ruler, the subject not a subject, the father not a father, the son not a son, then even if there be grain, would I get to eat it?” (Analects 12:11) And I'll add to it "Let men be men, and women be women. If the men are not men and women are not women, then all you'd have are a bunch of androgynous adults.". It's possible for men and women to have equal status, but it is lunacy to suggest that men and women are equal, because they absolutely are not and cannot be. It makes as much sense to suggest dogs can be equal to cats, that apples can be equal to oranges.

locopati 13y ago

Did you watch the film? Is it necessary to downplay it and bring in your own concerns instead of engaging the concerns raised in the film? This is not a zero-sum game of suffering and your concerns are intimately connected to those raised in the film. How can it be otherwise? To use your example around men being sent to war. Do you think that's entirely unrelated to excluding the perspective and ideas of half of the population? Such that we've chosen a narrow set of options for conflict resolution instead of including the wide range of human creativity.

ivanca 13y ago
Power is a natural game, is not intrinsic to human beings. For example elephants act against other elephants clans. Yes; I commented because was washing the film and feel repulsion for all the biased lies it tells, did you know men are also abused but just don't report it as much as women because they ridiculed and not taken seriously?. I actually didn't downplay it enough just for the sake of not getting my comment killed by downvotes, if you want to know why you can learn from a wonderful lady: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqEeCCuFFO8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqEeCCuFFO8