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Climate engineering scares the shit out of me. I think this article is right, we do not fully understand global warming. We know something is happening, we do N

by x0054 13y ago

Climate engineering scares the shit out of me. I think this article is right, we do not fully understand global warming. We know something is happening, we do NOT know exactly what OR why. But we have the fucking hubris to assume that we can make it better (through climate engineering)!? Without even fully understanding the problem. That said, we can still work on improving the world and cutting down CO2 emissions AND pollution. Global warming or not, no one can argue with the fact that air quality in large cities in US, India, and China is atrocious. Global warming may or may not kill us, but pollution is killing people, now, today. And that pollution is 100% man made, no argument about that. I personally think we should work on innovation of power production, not conservation of said power. Better battery technology and better solar photovoltaic technology is the future, in my personal opinion. UPDATE: updated for clarity.

Demiurge 13y ago
We have the fucking hubris to assume that we can stop impacting it by emitting tons of chemicals into environment, turning tons of earth over, cutting down acres of forests. That's not making it better, that's just not making it as much as worse, as fast. We are way far from 'climate engineering' when we can't even reduce impact by 2%.
glenra 13y ago
> Global warming or not, no one can argue with the fact that air quality in large cities in US, India, and China is atrocious. You can argue with that for the US. "atrocious" compared to what? It's certainly a lot better than it used to be. > And that pollution is 100% man made, no argument about that. Not 100%, no. Some of our pollution is nature-made. Los Angeles was smoggy before there were any cars there - the Chumash indian tribe called Los Angeles basin "the valley of smoke". It has environmental conditions conducive to collecting particulates in the air - even pollen and dust and wood smoke from natural fires will collect and form a lingering haze there.

by x0054 13y ago

Demiurge 13y ago

We have the fucking hubris to assume that we can stop impacting it by emitting tons of chemicals into environment, turning tons of earth over, cutting down acres of forests. That's not making it better, that's just not making it as much as worse, as fast. We are way far from 'climate engineering' when we can't even reduce impact by 2%.

glenra 13y ago

> Global warming or not, no one can argue with the fact that air quality in large cities in US, India, and China is atrocious. You can argue with that for the US. "atrocious" compared to what? It's certainly a lot better than it used to be. > And that pollution is 100% man made, no argument about that. Not 100%, no. Some of our pollution is nature-made. Los Angeles was smoggy before there were any cars there - the Chumash indian tribe called Los Angeles basin "the valley of smoke". It has environmental conditions conducive to collecting particulates in the air - even pollen and dust and wood smoke from natural fires will collect and form a lingering haze there.