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An interesting read, but there is one paragraph in particular that sounds a bit like an elaborate troll. Take a look at this: The most notable is participatory
by nhaehnle 13y ago
An interesting read, but there is one paragraph in particular that sounds a bit like an elaborate troll. Take a look at this:
The most notable is participatory economics, or parecon. This is a worthwhile attempt, I think, but to me it doesn’t quite pass the smell test of being sufficiently un-communist, what with its workers councils and lack of any sort of ruling class. All very un-American, [...]
Did the author just imply that they are in favor of having a ruling class? Then, just after that:
When you start thinking this way you start getting into the dodgy world of heterodox economics and, well, that’s a world of a lot of crackpots. Some good ideas, sure, but a lot of crackpots, and more to the point, it’s a world devoid of empirical research, which is a serious problem.
Uh yeah, go talk to a real heterodox economist, and they will explain to you how a lack of listening to real world data is actually the core problem of orthodox economics.
By the way: What's lacking in the initial brief discussion of alternative economic system is that aside from capitalism (i.e., firms are privately owned, compete in the market) and centrally planned communism (i.e., firms are state-owned and follow a central plan) there are also variants of market socialism (i.e., firms are typically state-owned and compete in the market).
- rickwebb 13y agoOriginal author here: 1) No trolling, just sarcasm. Not a comment on my personal beliefs, more along the lines of "wouldn't wash with a bunch of American TV writers during the cold war." I hope it's pretty clear that someone who wrote this isn't so into a "ruling class"! 2) Okay that one might have been a bit of a troll. There is some good heteroeconomics out there. Including, this, I hope. ;) But yeah. The goal here was to paint a way to the future without getting bogged down in that world.
- notahacker 13y agoI thought you were trolling when you cited parecon as an example of heterodox economics that was actually good. "Democratically" achieved job rotation to ensure everyone does an equal share of "empowering" and "disempowering" work? Really?